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To: RMF who wrote (892018)	10/7/2015 5:39:08 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572718

If that's what it has all come down to then there is something VERY wrong in the United States. Who knew that we could have a Mad Max future without a nuclear holocaust? And this would be thought to be normal, if not desirable? guess they are right. Americans truly are exceptional...

To: RMF who wrote (892018)	10/7/2015 6:09:10 AM
From: one_less	3 Recommendations Recommended By Bonefish d[-_-]b jlallen Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572718

You seem to be saying that my Wife should not only Teach but also carry a Gun and Defend her classes. I did not say that or even seem to say that, or something even similar. I said, "at least for those ex-military/police or other qualified individuals." I don't want any one to be forced to carry a gun in any situation especially not in a public school, and especially if they are like your wife. So why promote such a dopey strawman? Apparently I've given you too much credit. I thought you capable of carrying on a more thoughtful discussion. If you feel the need to promote this ridiculous type of scenario in order to easily dismiss the premise I just offered you we can cut it short. I can just discuss it with conservatives and you can just diss the idea with tejek and combjelly and such, so we can talk past each other as if that is advancing ideas. Pretty normal on this thread, and relatively pointless except for those craving validation. The simple premise being that the institutions we are required to send our children to should be required to make reasonable efforts to keep children safe. Where they refuse, they should be held accountable when children suffer. The same goes for public gathering places. When they are held accountable for failing to act in reasonable ways, we will see a change in their willingness to improve the security of these environments. This is a fact and I predict such lawsuits in the future because that seems to be what it will take. Where there are people who are willing and who are qualified to carry a concealed weapon it seems reasonable for Administrations to approve a system of preparedness. We don't need madmax or camouflaged teachers patrolling the halls, just activate resources already in place, and continue business as usual. I taught in schools years ago and could have identified more than a half dozen qualified and willing persons in each place I taught. No one (except the admin) even needs to know who has concealed carry on the premises, so there is no need for people to feel any different about the people they work with.

To: RMF who wrote (892018)	10/7/2015 7:48:44 AM
From: Metacomet	4 Recommendations Recommended By gronieel2 loantech RMF SeachRE Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572718

..fertilized eggs are protected though ..repubicans protect those...until they are large enough to shoot....in the interest of proper gun etiquette

To: RMF who wrote (892018)	10/9/2015 12:03:55 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572718

It is really common sense that someone on a school campus would have a firearm so that the facility isn't 100% defenseless. True, if someone comes in with an AR15 it might be a long shot but it is something. An important point, one made by Carson, is the idea of training. A lot of times a well-armed, wild-eyed nutjob can be brought down with a well-trained person's handgun. Knowing how to use a firearm is important. I feel very weak because I've never had formal training and intend to go and get it before we move. My wife, OTOH, was trained extensively so if necessary I'll give the damned gun to her ;) Training matters, IMO. There ought to be persons trained to handle the gun(s) that are on premisis.