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To: BillHoo who wrote (6963)	12/23/1997 12:53:00 PM
From: Patrice Gigahurtz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213173

Bill: Regarding System/8 crashes: When you installed 8.0 onto the clean HD was "AppleScriptLibrary" within the extension folder ? I ask because when I installed 8.0 on my clean reformatted HD it installed everything BUT "AppleScriptLibrary" extension". Intsead, I had to drop that particluar extension onto the system folder icon manually.

To: BillHoo who wrote (6963)	12/23/1997 1:42:00 PM
From: Eric Yang	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213173

I think the problems you've encountered is at least in part due to the cumstomized intallation process and network specific issues. What were some of the bugs that were traced to OS8 rather than the applications use? In my experience OS 8 has been exteremly stable on a 7500, 7600 and G3/266MT. I've used the Mac for everything from internet, CD-burning to programming (CW). I almost never turn off my Mac and it crashes (hard crash) about once every 4 days or so. I've noticed that the only time that the computer crashes (soft crash) consistantly is with Netscape Nav 3.03 and 3.04. a quick 'force quit' seems to cure the problem. No need for the three finger salute. Most of my Mac friends who've installed OS8 share similarly positive experience. 3 hardcore users out of 4 (each with 2 or more Macs running OS8) agree that crashes not only occur far less frequently but when it does happen it's usually 'softer'. The only exception was a friend with a new 8600/300 that seems to suffer from random crashes. A few of us used to call him up and intentionally rub it in by describing how stable OS8 is on OUR systems. Anyway after rechecking all the connectors for the 3 internal HDs, deleting the EnergySaver Pref and turning off some more extensions the problem went away. Eric

To: BillHoo who wrote (6963)	12/23/1997 10:09:00 PM
From: Slide Rule	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213173

Bill, what do you do and test and check for a whole year? The central computer crowd at my company also take a year or so, and I've always wondered why it takes so long. Believe it or not, they've modified Win95 so they can do version control over the network and lock out certain features; then they had to modify all the MS-Office apps so they would run on the mod-Win95 -- etc, etc. For example, they pulled the macro commands out of Excel. All this in the name of "Standardized software." FWIW, this logic escapes me.