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Technology Stocks : MSFT Internet Explorer vs. NSCP Navigator -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15441)12/23/1997 4:07:00 PM
From: Justin Banks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Reg -

I can use third party clients with IE. Where's the substance?

If you click on a mailto:<...> tag (like the one you see on the top of the form when you're replying to a SI message, do you get a MSFT mail client? Can you change that? I can, Netscape allows me to. That's the substance. Win98 changes that. No matter what my default browser, when I click on an embedded URL, I bring up IE, no matter my preferred browser. End of story. End of choice.

MSFT suported all web features up until DHTML, if I am wrong simply point it out.

There are a variety of ways that IE doesn't (and didn't) conform to the various RFCs. If you're really curious, do the search yourself.

So basically you are saying that one cannot fire up and run the Nav executable on Win 98. If you are not, you are being quite misleading.

No, Reg, I'm saying that if a user clicks on a hypertext link in Win98, that user has no choice as to what browser to use. That's limiting the choice of the consumer to no choice. That's bad for the consumer, and end the end, bad for progress and for the marketplace.

try and administer a Enterprise server with IE.

I wouldn't try and admin an Enterprise server from anything other than a GNU util's equipped command line, and neither would any other competant sysadmin with half a brain. For hell sake, MSFT requires installation of IE for admin tasks even on a C2 secure system! Lunacy!

-justinb



To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15441)12/24/1997 12:26:00 AM
From: Keith Hankin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
>>> MSFT suported all web features up until DHTML, if I am wrong simply point it out. No
standards body defined frames when NSCP released them. nor Javascript, plug-in tags, embed
tags, NSCP's proprietary DHTML, the list goes on.

NSCP has also supported all web features. The NSCP proprietary stuff (JavaScript, etc) was done because there were no standards against which to build, so they created them. If MSFT had entered into competition earlier, I'm sure that the picture would be quite different. And the entry of DHTML came at a time when MSFT had sufficiently caught up so that they could be proactive, not reactive.

>>> Can IE currently browse the internals of any NSCP products. Before you say yes, try and
administer a Enterprise server with IE.

Yes, but NSCP is not the monopoly here. They are not the ones on trial.