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To: koan who wrote (283177)11/17/2015 7:12:30 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541791
 
he was persecuting Sunnie he drove them to Isis.

He didn't "drive them to ISIS," Koan. They are ISIS. The heart of ISIS is composed of members of Saddam's army and bureaucracy. Apparently, they became "radicalized" while in prison, got tired of Maliki's and Shia vengeance, and they rebelled.

We have to undo what the British and French did after WWI. It would have been so much easier if they had actually had the good of those people in mind. But they didn't. Probably, they couldn't have had that mindset, I don't know, but they were still filled with the imperial, colonizing mindset, and there was all that energy there. So they set it up so that they could control the area, which they did for a short time. But now we reap the consequences.

So it goes.

I sit in one of the dives
On Fifty-second Street
Uncertain and afraid
As the clever hopes expire
Of a low dishonest decade:
Waves of anger and fear
Circulate over the bright
And darkened lands of the earth,
Obsessing our private lives;
The unmentionable odour of death
Offends the September night.

Accurate scholarship can
Unearth the whole offence
From Luther until now
That has driven a culture mad,
Find what occurred at Linz,
What huge imago made
A psychopathic god:
I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.


W.H. Auden
September 1, 1939
the rest of the poem at poemdujour.com



To: koan who wrote (283177)11/17/2015 7:47:05 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541791
 
Bush didn't keep us "safe"- the republicans are morons, and absolute failures at "nation building" and equal failures at budgeting. I can think of no worse group to lead America, except maybe communists and nazis, who have a worse track record. I continue to hope that most of America realizes knee jerk militarization and nationalism and stupid wars bring nothing but bankruptcy- moral and financial.