To: TimF who wrote (914194 ) 1/13/2016 2:03:41 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (3) | Respond to What exactly about our understanding of physics, biology, chemistry tells us life can form out of non-life. 2 - The fact that even without knowing the precise way it as created , and without having hundreds of millions of years and a whole world to run experiments, we can and have taken steps along path, not to the point of creating life, but to creating amino acids and other complex compounds There is a pretty good understanding all the way from nuclei-synthis in stars to amino acids. A gap is a lack of knowledge, not knowledge of impossibility .. I guess we can assume a sudden appearance of white rabbit isn't an impossibility. /there's just a gap in our knowledge. There's something like a wormhole or teleportation involved. I consider that a statement of blind faith. You free to consider it what you want, but its just a matter of following the evidence. Its not even a bold assertion. I didn't say "it did happen", So life IS software based. I don't think that's a very meaningful term, either in describing life well, or in establishing anything in the context of this conversation. I think a lot of "scientific" hypotheses are driven by a desire to make God unthinkable. And if needed, I can give you quotes of a number of philosophers saying so explicitly. There is a temptation, in discussion, to assume that if someone agrees with someone else on X, that they must agree with all of their related thoughts about X. I think life can arise from non-life, I think life evolved in to multitude of different forms once it was established. Nothing about that makes me an atheist, let alone an anti-theist. “I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption . The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem of pure metaphysics; he is also concerned to prove there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do. For myself, as no doubt for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system, and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom.” hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that … My guess is that this cosmic authority problem is not a rare condition and that it is responsible for much of the scientism and reductionism of our time . One of the tendencies it supports is the ludicrous overuse of evolutionary biology to explain everything about life, including everything about the human mind.”
