To: Brumar89 who wrote (340 ) 2/9/2016 2:35:39 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1308 < In fact, over the last century maniacs who believe as you do have slaughtered millions of people who believe as I do. The opposite is not true. > Name one person who believes as I do who has killed somebody. You are probably confused and think that a rule of being an atheist is that they kill people. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao didn't believe as I do. On the contrary, atheists have to be good in this life because there's no after-life in which to get forgiven. We do good in the here and now. You are making a silly generalisation. I made the mistake of coming back here when clicking around. Decades of experience have taught me that religious and superstitious people are not amenable to reason. Obviously really. You guess totally wrong, unsurprisingly <That's an incredible claim. I haven't experienced that or even heard of it. Perhaps you're still as an adult bitter your parents sent you to a Catholic school or something. > I went to a state school, namely Onehunga High School. It was compulsory to go to school. That school was what the government full of religious cranks provided. It was run by totalitarian thugs. Obey or else. Caning. Assembly included compulsory praying, compulsory hymn singing, with authoritarian thugs watching out for any defiance. Much the same as the sardine can Moslems all kneel to Mecca, or else. Apostasy is death with that lot! They don't mess about with mere beatings with sticks. Education in NZ was supposed to be secular but it was not. Even now, parliament begins with a prayer. In court one had to swear on a Bible to "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me Dog" which is richly amusing as that's a lie itself just to placate dumb authoritarian religious cranks. <Atheists like you want to circumscribe the lives of people like me. That's a fact. > Yes, we will shoot you if you try to force us to obey you. That does circumscribe your life. You want to rule the world. Too bad for you. I wish to circumscribe your lust for power. Atheists like me are libertarians who like freedom for you to do as you like. In what way do you think I wish to circumscribe your life? You can bay to the Moon all you like, chant incantations and climb to the top of mountains with no compulsory safety gear if you wish to do so. What is it you want to do that you think people like me will stop you doing? Mqurice