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To: JR2 who wrote (2569)12/26/1997 11:00:00 PM
From: Ed  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 5036
 
If you have capital gains, it would be smart to take a loss on Shiva
and lower your tax bill. I will probably do the same. It has nothing
to do with capitulation or giving up. It is called lowering your
tax bill. Bottom line is what matters.

I know some people will be critical, but let's face it: Shiva is a bad investment. All we do on this thread is look for excuses, hope, pray, get excited, only to be dissapointed again. Shiva closed within 1/4 from it's all-time low. Is there a guarantee the stock will not slip
into $6 range?

If you stil want to own the stock, you can sell it and then buy it back within 30 days. If you are afraid the stock will make a sharp up
move in January (don't hold your breath), you can buy Call options.

Eventually, Shiva's fortunes will improve, but when? Are you willing
to wait? Is it worth it? There are so many much better companies.

Regarding Shiva's VPN products, who cares? Shiva does not have a monopoly on VPN. Other companies offer VPN products too. For those who will argue that Shiva's products are much better than competitions, I can only say that awards don't matter. Shiva's marketing sucks and they depend on Nortel too much. Their revenues
are too low and earnings are even lower.

In conclusion, before accusing me of being too negative, take a good
look at Shiva's chart. Is there anything to get excited about? Shiva
is in a bear market with occasional corrections to the upside.

Ed

P.S. Holding the stock hoping for a takeover is a waste of time. For
those who hope for a takeover in the $20 range, ask yourself, why
would anybody offer a 150% premium? Would you?



To: JR2 who wrote (2569)12/26/1997 11:05:00 PM
From: Tom Hua  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 5036
 
Other than S3 and Micronics I am not aware of too many other
High Tech or formerly High growth like Shiva that venture down below liquidation
status.


Jason, I'll tell you one: TEAL. It's a former high flyer which traded at $23 in Feb and is now just below $2. Stock is now below cash value (but this ridicudously low valuation won't last when January rolls around).

Regards,

Tom