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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10339)12/30/1997 1:18:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Emile, I want to believe you are playing with a full deck, but where this is concerned I seriously wonder if you have the ability to reason, and your attack on Alan is becoming demonic, Emile. I've never seen anything like it in my life, and I'm going to be praying for you more because of it.

Alan has not in any of his words ever mentioned the Romans killed
our Lord. It was me, Emile.

You based this statement of MINE on my "bewitchment by Alan".
Emile, you're so anti-semitic its almost scary. That I could not have a kind or moderate thought about history concerning the Jewish people without being psychologically disturbed by others.

Actually it was obvious to me while watching a very good Christian production of Jesus of Nazareth. One that I find very accurate.
It was in watching the reinactment of what actually happened as it happened and was written down by those who saw it, and then made into a movie I watched-- three days ago. Actually, I don't enjoy movies on Jesus, because no human can begin to compare to our Lord in any way. But this was good, and I watched it, and then I realized what I posted. Which Chris read and tried to correct.
Which you read and tried to correct.

I stand on the post as written. I see no error in it, merely a statement of truths.

Please re-read it. Actually, that probably wouldn't help, so I'll explain it and if you want to read it and don't fall asleep, fine.

Emile, where Alan is concerned, there is a nastiness coming from you that is scary. I have to repeat that.

But to answer Chris, who just started posting one week ago by leaping into the middle of this like he was recruited from the outside, almost, weird--

Chris, I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me here, but is it that maybe I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CAIPHUS WAS OF SATAN, BUT IF I WAS A TRUE BELIEVER, I WOULD....?.

Sleep well tonight, Chris, because I am a true believer and I know that Ciaphus was of satan and acting on his direct behalf. But thank you anyway for trying to perhaps enlightening me that Ciaphus was simply rotten to the core, and a bad Jew, and I didn't understand that because I am weak and unfounded in the Word..

Now, I would like to look at the scripture immediately preceeding those which you quote, upon which I base my post, which I hope you will re-read and see that I probably am in no error at all except for
rather thinking for years and years that yes, the entire nation of Isreal did hate Jesus and screamed as a nation for his death.

There are more facts than what you answered to me.

You started with John 11:49. But. Let's look at John 11:45, following raising Lazarus from the dead (my keyboard is going out and so I am tired of correcting all the mistakes, and if it continues I will leave them as they are)

....Then many of the JEWS which came to Mary (his mother?) and had seen the things which Jesus did, BELIEVED ON HIM.

BUT SOME OF THEM went straightway to the Pharisees and told them what things Jesus had done

THEN (as a result of hearing that Jesus was now doing big time Divine miracles) gathered the Chief Priest (Caiphas) and those Pharisees ( who had been personally told of the miracles, etc.) "a council" (a group of men, not a stadium of men) and said, "what do we, for this man does many miracles."

ATTENTION PLEASE TO THE POINT I MADE IN MY POST WHICH WAS TOTALLY OVERLOOKED TO REPRIMAND ME FOR NOT REALIZING CHAIPHUS WAS A BAD MAN:

[Per John the best friend of Jesus, who tried to accompany Jesus on His way to his death but they threw him back out into the night, we read]:

IF WE LET HIM THUS ALONE (do not arrange to have him killed)
ALL MEN WILL BELIEVE ON HIM: AND THE ROMANS

[.....I REPEAT FOR CLARITY:] AND THE ROMANS SHALL (WILL ABSOLUTELY) COME AND TAKE AWAY BOTH OUR PLACE AND NATION.

Then, as you said, that we should look closer, Chaiphus then says in REBUTTAL to the fact that all men will start believing in Jesus, as in all men in ISREAL certainly, and as a result the Romas will come and kill them all, Chaiphus answers: "You know nothing at all...."

That IF we kill Jesus, no one can believe in him and the Romans will have no reason to come here, depose and kill us and trash the country. STOP EXCUSING THE ROMANS!!!!! THEY WERE PURELY AND TOTALLY PAGAN SATANISTS!!!!!!!!!

Chris, what you see is one thing, based on not seeing the exact circumstances that preceeded it. What I see is the truth of what John wanted me to see. I have a good relationship with John, and have never found a second of his words that confused me.

Now I stand on what I posted. That according to scripture it was not the entire nation of Isreal "that killed Jesus". It was a satanic high priest and his money grubbing cohorts. That is no more representative of a population than 10 feminisnazis ranting on TV represent me or 60,000 other christian women. They represent a handful of lesbians, and mostly wiccans, I believe, into the mother goddess. That's my view and off the subject. But a parallel to compare it to.

To visciously and almost with verbal violence attack Alan because I saw a movie which enacted the scriptures and accounts of what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, all quite Jewish, about 100% Jewish, had to say about what they saw themselves,
is beginning to make me wonder how God will deal with all this.