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To: neolib who wrote (16081)	6/1/2016 3:39:25 PM
From: gzubeck	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 72313

i think glofo has fubared amd yet again with their 28nm hybrid process. i knew something stupid was forthcoming when they rearanged the executive committee. im not a big fan of su because shes pretty good at evading the truth....meaning that she just avoids talking about negatives altogether. this has become a constant damage control company. i once had a manager who said he could train a bunch of monkees to do a better job...i know how he feels now!

To: neolib who wrote (16081)	6/1/2016 6:38:42 PM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 72313

Responses: 1) They already have the performance crown as the Radeon Pro Duo is the fastest GPU card in the market today. 2) That assumption is likely wrong because no one has tested the retail version of the card and shown the results publicly. Just because a card is rated 150W TDP, doesn't mean it will draw that. I personally had cards that were rated 150W which didn't draw more than 110W even using power virii. And it goes the other way as a certain Nvidia card my friend had was rated 150W actually drew 230W when a 3D FPS was running. The 150W TDP is likely due to the fact that one 6 pin PCIe plug is used as 75W for PCIe bus plus 75W for the 6 pin plug equals 150W TDP. That is the upper bound to get used for a stock Rx480 and no more than that. 3) Again likely wrong as no test of gaming performance or power consumption is known at this time. As for the implicit 4) You have no basis for that assumption at all because of the assumptions in 2 and 3 and the forgetting of 1. Let's wait and see as 2 and 3 will be known in 4 weeks. Pete