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To: Eric who wrote (70419)	6/5/2016 12:46:48 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Recommended By teevee Respond to of 86350

<<Over 70,000 folks a year are buying Telsa's alone. Do you have a beef with pure electric cars>> At that rate, after 10 years there would be 800,000 people, assuming there are other people like you out there who will keep buying. In the USA there are 300 million people. So there would be fewer than 0.3% of them with Teslas. That's even more "efficient" than your cabled Tesla charging = so few as to be irrelevant. But those 70,000 include countries like China and the rest of the world where there are also cars and people. So Tesla is totally irrelevant at the current sales rate. As I wrote, a few rich people who can afford to waste money on anything they like. I don't have a beef with pure electric cars. They have seemed like a good idea worth considering producing for decades [as I also wrote] as oil soared from $2 a barrel to $40 and after some electric-ending declines to $10, all the way to $140 a barrel but then sagging down to $40 a barrel. I like science which involves reality as the test of ideas. I don't need to crack the books. I have hired engineers to do that and they have done it. And they have reported Halo in reality and the efficiency is about 94%. A book can't tell me what they'd get in practice, but reality can after they test reality. It's like CDMA - I didn't need to crack a book to design it myself, as I had enough knowledge already to have thought of the idea so that when I happened upon supersonic engineers who were doing it, I could decide whether they were going to have a great business or not. I did. My guess is that electric cars are going to win because they have some intrinsic advantages over delivering liquid fuels to petrol and diesel engines as a mode of transport. But 30 years after I thought they should win, they have not. That's the reality test. And electric also has the advantage of avoiding road tax and petrol duty. Have you seen taxes on Euroserfs and NZers? Tesla still can't compete. Mqurice

To: Eric who wrote (70419)	6/5/2016 1:27:39 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

A number of us are leading the way to a cleaner, more sustainable future with what we are doing today and have been doing the last few decades. I guess a number of you folks want to be stuck in the past subservient to some very rich folks who want to exploit the world and don't care about the consequences. A number of rich people being sanctimonious hypocrites are not leading the way to a sustainable narrative. I guess a number of we folks think a bit more carefully than the sanctimonious rich before wasting money. We don't see CO2 as a problem. We see it as a good thing. We are Greenies - making the world greener. Chlorophyll works only on CO2. Have you canceled your pilot's licence to avoid the air pollution you cause? Mqurice

To: Eric who wrote (70419)	6/5/2016 5:34:24 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Recommended By Thomas A Watson Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

I guess a number of we folks have to watch very carefully how we spend our limited funds: < I guess a number of you folks want to be stuck in the past subservient to some very rich folks who want to exploit the world and don't care about the consequences.> There is no conspiracy to exploit the world. It's just business doing what it can to earn Big Bucks. I was a downstream oil man. A friend was an upstream exploration and production man. Swarms of other people make cars which depend on the oil products. Anyone can join in and compete [government depredations do provide a significant barrier to entry but that's life in the kleptocratic suffocatocracy]. And they do. If you think the car and oil industries are not competitive, step right up and put your money where your mouth is. Your excellent connections should get you an inside track. Anyone can make cars; electric, petrol, diesel, CNG, LPG, fusion powered [on board deuterium/tritium reactors], coal with on-board CO2 liquefaction,, wind-powered, whatever. Anyone can produce oil. In fact I have a local place which would be perfect to do a wild-cat well based on my theory on how oil is formed via plate tectonics. Don't you see that your Tesla buying proves that your theory is wrong that there's a rich-man's exploitative conspiracy to exploit the world? Come to think of it, you and Elon look a bit like the "rich men" exploiting the political system to get subsidies and a free ride. Not to mention Solyndra and all sorts. Mqurice