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To: Buckwheat who wrote (27348)	12/30/1997 11:11:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574678

Buckwheat - re: " Intel is not serious yet about the econo market. " You might want to think TWICE about this comment...after you read this article: news.com Compaq hits new low: $699 By Brooke Crothers December 30, 1997, 6:30 p.m. PT update A Presario model from Compaq (CPQ) has pushed the price of a full-featured PC to as low as $699. With the Presario 4212ES, Compaq appears to be shattering yet another price barrier and possibly setting the stage for a new category of consumer systems priced well below $1,000. This model has also been sold to schools. Interestingly, the price point is being achieved with an Intel MMX Pentium processor, not an alternative chip from Cyrix or Advanced Micro Devices. The $699 Presario 4212ES is being sold through Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW), a major PC reseller, as a special holiday bundle. The box alone is $699; with a monitor the system sells for $899. "It's an excellent price point. "They'll keep hitting [the sub-$1,000 market] harder and harder," said Matt Sargent, an analyst at Computer Intelligence, a market research firm. By comparison, another Compaq model, the Cyrix-based Presario 2200, has been selling for $799 without a monitor and $999 with a monitor. The 4212ES comes with a 166-MHz MMX Pentium processor, a 2.1GB hard drive, a CD-ROM drive, a built-in Ethernet network connection, 16MB of memory, a 14-inch monitor, and software bundle including Microsoft Works, Microsoft Bookshelf, and Microsoft Encarta for $899. The system also boasts MPEG video playback technology and two Universal Serial Bus (USB) connections. The 4212ES offers no ability to add extra options inside the box, however. "You get what you see. You buy the box and get what's in the box and that's it," said a CDW representative, alluding to the lack of internal expansion. Options can be added externally by plugging them into the available ports. Like all PCs, the system comes with external connections such as serial and parallel ports as well as the USB ports. The USB connections allow hook up of consumer electronic products such as digital cameras. Paul

To: Buckwheat who wrote (27348)	12/30/1997 11:23:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574678

<Socket 7 Socket 8 Slot 1 Slot 2 Do you really think the motherboard and chipset producers are interested in continuing this game much longer?> Why not, they did for 8088, 80286, i386, i486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, and now Pentium II. It's really not as bad as you make it sound. The Socket8 and Slot1 use the same chipset and Slot2 is only for highend servers and workstations, a market that AMD is incapable of competing in. What's the big deal? EP

To: Buckwheat who wrote (27348)	12/31/1997 2:02:00 PM
From: Profits	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574678

Buckwheat, Don't get me wrong. I like your position but let me clear one thing up. Intel owns the motherboard and chipset market today. They are the largest producer of motherboards in the world today with over 50% marketshare. And they hold patents on the Pentium II chipset and don't allow the third parties to manufacture Slot 1 chipsets. (HX, TX, VX, etc..) So the motherboard and chipset guys already hate Intel. That is why Socket 7 is here to stay. Because it is the only things keeping these motherboard and chipset guys alive. Profits