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To: E. Charters who wrote (4264)12/31/1997 9:08:00 PM
From: bral  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10836
 
Off topic

I'm just a simple man. Relativism is OK for justifying anything one needs to justify. Otherwise, there is truth if a seeker is earnest and honest. Not knowing you I am uncertain if your comments are tongue in cheek or you really could care less since the misery and agony dont affect you.

Just because men use the name of the Lord while drunk has nothing to do with wether they happen to have any relationship with whom they speak. Funny, tho you never hear people cursing "Budda dammit"

Bral



To: E. Charters who wrote (4264)1/1/1998 6:04:00 AM
From: Gary H  Respond to of 10836
 
EC, Tis a cruel world.

<Personally I think if quick understanding of God is necessary about a dozen beer is as good as any conversion. Generally men see the deity quite clearly when in that state, and their language, so clearly invocative of deities and sub-deities, shows it.>

From a Zen type by the name of Chuang Tzu;

"A druken man who falls out of a cart, though he may suffer, does not die. His bones are the same as other people's; but he meets his accident in a different way. His spirit is in a condition of security.
He is not conscious of riding in the cart; neither is he conscious of falling out of it. Ideas of life, death, fear and the like cannot penetrate his breast; and so he does not suffer from contact with objective existance. If such security is to be got from wine, how much more is to got from God?

Cheers,