To: Maurice Winn who wrote (606473 ) 8/30/2016 7:22:20 AM From: bruwin Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 793801 First of all Maurice Winn, I fail to see the necessity for you to speak out in defence of LindyBill as in ....Do you really think Lindy wouldn't be able to understand the difference between .... " .... I have absolutely No Doubt that LindyBill is more than capable and able to debate or discuss anything with me, irrespective of whether or not he agrees with my standpoint or comments. We have, in fact, done exactly that in the past. And just as a matter of interest, with regard to my post that you replied to and appear to disagree with, I see that, currently, LindyBill has "Recommended" it. Now, .... when I referred to "if an American came to South Africa he would see any black as being much the same as any other black" I was referring to the distinct possibility that, from a 'physical appearance' perspective , it would be very difficult for a non-South African, who had no previous exposure to the numerous tribes that we have in this country, to tell the difference between a South African black of one tribe from a black of another tribe. Therefore, from a physical appearance aspect, a foreigner may see all South African blacks as a "homogenous" group. I have often been told that by many foreigners who have visited this country. So it's not something I just sucked out of my thumb. However, based on which tribe they belong to, there is a vast difference between them in terms of whether or not they are prepared to cohabit etc.. This has got nothing to do with the identification of "gangstas" or "criminals". This has a lot to do with having lived within a society that has always been in close proximity with the African Tribal cultures and systems. And in so doing, having an understanding and appreciation of the large differences that exist between African tribes. To the best of my knowledge those who have lived all their lives within the North Americas, and have not ventured outside its shores, have not been exposed to the true African culture and tribal ways of life. There is nothing within your North Americas that replicates that, with the possible exception of your very depleted Indian tribes, and they are primarily confined to their "reservations". And I stand by my contention that Education is one of the Cornerstones of a vibrant society and economy, and is something that any freedom loving country should have as its most important priority and to ensure that it is available to ALL its citizens, but NOT necessarily for free. It's then up to the citizenry to make the best use of it for themselves, and either sink or swim in the process, and not blame any other component of their society if they sink. And I'm sorry to say, but your comment --> " You can't turn a pigs ear into a silk purse with education." is, IMHO, most derogatory, racist and demeaning in the extreme. That is NOT how one should describe ANY groupings of peoples, irrespective of any "Bell Curve", and it is an attitude and opinion that will never contribute to harmony within societies. And if that is, truly, how you view things, then you and I have nothing further to discuss ........