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To: bruwin who wrote (606479)	8/30/2016 9:07:17 AM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793818

Education is the hope of our nation and an issue that Trump needs to pound relentlessly. I have personal experience with black families struggling greatly to provide their kids with quality education.

To: bruwin who wrote (606479)	8/30/2016 9:37:33 AM
From: alanrs	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793818

irrespective of any "Bell Curve" Since Mr. b has me on ignore, I'll only point out that the above phrase is the tell on the post, irrespective of any "facts." We recently had grandson extensively tested and they've come a long way with IQ. They currently identify 7 different IQ amenable brain abilities and it seems, at least in my grandson, that effective functioning depends more on those seven aspects being evenly balanced than the absolute level. I have a reasonably high IQ, high enough to recognize that no matter how much education I received......there's an intellectual realm (maybe many of them) in which I can't compete. On the other hand, I've also seen that while I might reach a conclusion faster than somebody else, I wouldn't necessarily reach it better. ARS

To: bruwin who wrote (606479)	9/1/2016 2:54:12 AM
From: Maurice Winn	3 Recommendations Recommended By AJ Muckenfus Ron M SirWalterRalegh Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793818

Oh, you mean a "rah rah our team" difference between Africans, not differences as between civil engineers and gangstas. That's like the difference between supporters of different sports teams. More imagined than real. Racists believe that physical appearance gives good insight into "at your throat" tribal determinants. Oh come on now. Don't be silly. Pretending everyone can be educated to the same amount is bad for everyone <And I'm sorry to say, but your comment --> *" You can't turn a pigs ear into a silk purse with education."* is, IMHO, most derogatory, racist and demeaning in the extreme. That is NOT how one should describe ANY groupings of peoples, irrespective of any "Bell Curve", and it is an attitude and opinion that will never contribute to harmony within societies.> To help you see the truth, let's take some extreme examples. Down syndrome children can't be taught Fourier transforms. Neither can most people. Even if you can get people to do some rote learning, you can't also instill in them the creative imagination to take what they have learned up and beyond to something new. Thats why human progress is so slow, over generations and millennia. Very few of us have got the right stuff. If you want supersonic smart DNA which can be educated and can then bootstrap launch off into whole new realms, you'll find it in Ashkenazis who sourced their DNA from a small area of north west India and across the middle east to north Africa. They got a lot of other DNA too which is all grist for the mill, but the magic elixir came from a very narrow source, like blue eyes. You won't find it in Zulus or other of your local yokel tribes. You racists prefer not to see the truth. By the time children are 3 you can see which ones are pigs ears and which are silk purses. Certainly by the time they're 10 the wheat and chaff are clear. Actually, you can see by the time they are a couple of months old. But brains aren't fully grown until they are at full height and they then need a few years to ripen. One big education mistake these days is to treat boys and girls the same. Girls do better because their brains are fully developed 3 years before boys. So they are filling universities. But boys do better in the high end extreme because they get another 3 years of development time. Of course individuals should all have an individually tailored education but that's not how schools and communism works. Boys can be better turned into silk purses than can girls even though boys are more like pigs ears when 13 years old while young women look like silk purses. Numerate people will understand that that's a statistical statement and your mileage will vary. Not all boys can be turned into silk purses. Apart from age of maturity, another problem for girls is that they are missing the maniacal DNA that drives boys to compete furiously even at risk of death. Girls are more sensible as shown by the Darwin Award numbers, prison attendance and common experience. Mqurice

To: bruwin who wrote (606479)	11/9/2016 2:41:51 AM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Recommended By 3bar skinowski Respond to of 793818

Hi again Bruwin. You might not like it, but you can't turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. <And I'm sorry to say, but your comment --> *" You can't turn a pigs ear into a silk purse with education."* is, IMHO, most derogatory, racist and demeaning in the extreme. That is NOT how one should describe ANY groupings of peoples, irrespective of any "Bell Curve", and it is an attitude and opinion that will never contribute to harmony within societies.> I have sat on that post for a few months, now doing a little clear out. It's quite a big deal for me that individuals be treated as individuals, not part of groups. But groups are made up of individuals and in considering groups who have something in common, such as the short race, it's a fact that they are unsuitable for things for which they are unsuited, such as winning basketball games. You can't turn short people into tall people. That's just life in the fast lane. They can try all the like but you can't turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. The grey ooze theory that all humans are the same at birth is as wrong as thinking that all breeds of dogs are the same at birth and a pit bull terrier can learn to be like a beagle with the right education. Fortunately, nature does not run DNA and evolution like that. Monoculture farming with the identical genes across all crops is a known hazard as all are vulnerable to a change in the environment. Humans are a wondrous mongrel mob, 7 billion strong and growing by the day. All are individuals with not even identical twins being identical when they are 30 years old. Or younger. < And I stand by my contention that Education is one of the Cornerstones of a vibrant society and economy, and is something that any freedom loving country should have as its most important priority and to ensure that it is available to ALL its citizens, but NOT necessarily for free> More important than education, which is highly valued in impoverished India, is protection of private property, free enterprise, and minimal suffocatocracy and kleptocracy. Property rights come before everything. Then, education can come in to enable people to work with something that enables value to be created. But you can't teach a pig's ear to do Fourier transforms or explain the Schrodinger equation to them, let alone have them invent it themselves out of thin air. Meanwhile, after a long day, it seems that Donald Trump is the new president. OMG - Hillary has just called Donald and has conceded defeat. As I post. Woohoo. Now phone Barack tomorrow morning and tell him the attack on Assad is over and ISIS is now the enemy and Russia is an ally and that Ukraine is to negotiate provincial status for eastern Ukraine and to start the rescue of Syrians. ISIS jihadists will now be taking off their uniforms and running away in their undies. Woohoo. Well done Donald. Mqurice