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To: unclewest who wrote (6456)10/15/2016 9:47:41 AM
From: Stan1 Recommendation

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unclewest

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If it's really more than a ploy to affect our election, which I think it is, right now, it's crazy for us to enter a major conflict over Syria. We need to stay out of that place, especially now that Assad is gaining back ground.

Russia will not be driven out. They want to keep Tartus at all costs. And they'll need it to protect the Iran, Iraq, Syria NG pipeline to Europe they've got their hopes set on.



To: unclewest who wrote (6456)10/16/2016 6:29:48 AM
From: Maurice Winn1 Recommendation

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Oblivious

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I have a really good way to survive fallout. Avoid the bombs going off. The best way to do that is get things right from first principles, meaning come to sensible arrangements about who owns what.

For example, it was not a good idea to think that NATO could scoop up Ukraine including Crimea and then terminate the Russian military facilities there. Crimea has been Russian for longer than Hawaii and Alaska have been American. The average American would probably consider it a bad idea to think that Native Alaskans should have their property returned to their possession - Russia didn't rightfully own it so couldn't reasonably sell it. Similarly, it probably seemed odd to Russians, and especially those living in Crimea, such as The Prosecutie, that the Euroserfs should conquer Ukraine and Crimea in cahoots with Victoria F-bomb Nuland and the evil Harpies [including Kerry and Obama].

Russia was an expanding empire like USA, Great Britain, Japan and others when they could. But those days have gone. Conquest of territory these days doesn't really make sense. Nowadays, it's more the way China has been doing it in Africa and in Russia by moving umpty$billion as investments.

It's also a bad idea to conduct illegal attacks against Syria without UN approval which would be crimes against humanity, war crimes etc. Syria invited Russia to help them against ISIS and Al Qaeda by another name but for some super weird reason, Americans are supposed to think it a good idea to help those hideously murderous jihadists against the comparatively highly civilized Assad.

Donald Trump talks sense when he says it's a great idea for Russia and Assad to kill Isis and co. He also says he has no problem with Russia or Putin. Compare that with Clinton calling Putin Hitler and she actually seems to believe it, which is a very scary attitude. She's a megalomaniac and wants to show him who is boss and doesn't understand that that is how to start a war. Same for Obama. Same for Kerry. Same for Nuland, Rice, Powers, Jarrett, Michele and co.

If Americans vote for Clinton, they will likely get what they deserve.

Weirdly, Democrats think that it's Trump who has the dangerous attitude and who should not be anywhere near approving nuclear war.

Forget training for fallout and start voting against Clinton and the idea of showing Putin who is boss. Start thinking in terms of partnership, how Trump and Putin think.

The confrontational attitude and wish to conquer will result in 1.3 billion Made in China descendants of Genghis Khan and the others once again peering into Europe. Already, there has been a vast gas contract agreed for supply to China instead of Europe [because of sanctions against Russia]. That's really stupid.

Mqurice