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To: JohnM who wrote (317559)11/10/2016 12:57:17 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541091
 
I'm very supportive of some of his ideas--single payer health care, redressing income inequalities, and so on. But I thought (a) he would not be able to govern given what we know about his from his senate/house experience, (b) to restate, he would have been easier to campaign against, much easier, than Clinton.
My own candidate for missed opportunity is Biden.

I don't know ANY liberal, Obama and Clinton included, who would not prefer single-payer.

The argument was incrementalism vs. nothing in light of the Congressional reality. Beginning with health care insurance for those previously denied - where their insurance was literally bankruptcy.

Biden did not want to run, still grieving personal family loss. Also, his MANY gaffes would have been bloody meat for the GOP carnivores - it would not have been a cakewalk. Certainly the Joe Biden fighting white male factor might have cost Trump some of his votes... which is a sad gender meme reality in battleground America.

Some "experts" argue that Clinton should not have picked a white man for VP; ponder that. The same Monday Morning QB'ing would have been said in reverse, when she lost to Trump's whitelash, IMO.

Hopefully Biden will win back a Republican House or Senate seat in 2018, as well as Michelle Obama.

Longshot: Michelle Obama is young enough for a future Presidential run if she builds her credentials.



To: JohnM who wrote (317559)11/10/2016 12:58:07 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541091
 
Being a cynic, I thought, after the death of his son, that this election was his if he wanted it. But hey, that's an emotional reaction- you can't know the past- and Biden was prone to gaffs- and I don't think Trump would have been the candidate the reps would have put up against Biden- so even if dems had lost, we would not have had an idiot in the white house.