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To: Paul Engel who wrote (43731)1/3/1998 5:43:00 PM
From: Mo Chips  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
<<Intel has executed design implementations flawlessly>>

I like INTC, but I can't forget the past. Wasn't the FPU problem in '94 a little less than flawless execution of a design?

Mo



To: Paul Engel who wrote (43731)1/3/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: gnuman  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul Engel. That's the weirdest harangue I've seen you post . First of all, if you actually read what I posted you'd be aware that I stated Intel can compete, and gave illustrations. You keep missing the point. Some of us investors happen to be interested in what's going to happen to Intel's stock price. You state that Intel is driving the price down, but some believe, including many analysts, that the competition is the fundamental driving force behind the steep learning curve. I made the point that if Intel is going to realize historical revenues, earnings and margins on PC CPU's, I think the market must convert 100% to PII, and quickly. To illustrate, if we arbitrarily assign $20 Billion 1998 revenues to the PC CPU, (which would keep it about flat to 1997), and if Intel captures 80 million units in 1998, (about 80% share), the ASP FOR THE YEAR must be $250. I think you have to admit that P55C will be a heavy drag on ASP's. Therefore I conclude that a quick conversion to PII is necessary to meet the ASP objective, and by implication the revenue and earnings objectives. Yes, I know there are Servers and lap-tops that will use higher ASP product, but the volume of desk top PC's will be the key determining factor. As for Intel's flawless historical execution, whatever happened to the Microma, (digital watch), ASIC and memory system divisions? Not that I'm knocking Intel, they were smart enough to abandon these industries as soon as they realized the folly.
While Intel has always employed learning curves on their products, I think they are now much steeper than historical curves. And I think it's because of a competitive force they haven't experienced in CPU's before. Yes, I know that they have been competing with AMD for years, but as you yourself pointed out, until now AMD was always competing with prior generation products. (ie; they came out with a 386 when Intel introduced the 486, etc.).
A few people have asked me questions and I've tried to respond with data from which they can draw their own conclusions. Seem's to me that's the purpose of an investor thread. You do an outstanding job of accurately responding to technical questions. But let anyone post anything which you consider negative and you seem to flip.
Well, I'm sorry if I stepped on your thread. You can have it all to yourself. :-)



To: Paul Engel who wrote (43731)1/3/1998 9:11:00 PM
From: VICTORIA GATE, MD  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul Engel

re <When you make money while driving down prices, make money while your competitors LOSE MONEY >

yes ,very good

Intel is sacrifice themself right now by driving down pc prices, not AMD or CYRX 1)to slowing down then kill competitors 2)to expand the market ,by low pc prices to maket the pie bigger ,
because we can't live without computer after you had use .( just like
Philip Morris give away free cigarettes ) .to make pc grow fast than 14 % for next 2 year while market share drop

so next 2 year is not 42 % home pc buy new pc ,but 63 %

will buy hi end pc ( they can't able to use the $600 pc any more)

vg

ps that why i sold intc @ 99 1/4 then buy hi 60 now