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To: James Seagrove who wrote (125492)	11/30/2016 2:58:41 PM
From: Horgad	10 Recommendations Recommended By abuelita Elroy Jetson ggersh James Seagrove louel and 5 more members Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219431

"If Canada is so great why does any Canadian that can afford it come to the States for medical treatment? " That is simply not true and propaganda being spread by those that benefit greatly from the US not going to a universal health care system. Yes there are few wealthy Canadians that will travel the world to find the best doctors and medical facilities (same is true in the US), but most are perfectly satisfied with the care they get in Canada...even the ones that can afford to go elsewhere.

To: James Seagrove who wrote (125492)	11/30/2016 3:00:44 PM
From: philv	2 Recommendations Recommended By bart13 James Seagrove Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219431

Comparison between US and Canada hardly matter, because according to projections, no matter where you live, health care spending is going over the top, and soon. "The prodigious level of spending makes health care important, but it is the fearsome growth of health care costs that has put health care reform on the national agenda. Medicare spending has grown 2.4 percentage points per year faster than GDP over the past 30 years, more than tripling as a share of GDP since 1960. If costs continue to grow at current rates relative to GDP, then Medicare alone will account for 8 percent of GDP by 2030, 14 percent by 2050, and 31 percent by the end of the 75-year budget projection window. This would imply that Medicare would be more than 50 percent larger than the current size of the entire federal budget. While these numbers are absurdly large, a similar projection would forecast total health care spending to account for an impossible 99 percent of GDP by 2082 ( Congressional Budget Office, 2007)." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov So, what is the solution? The solution will eventually be forced upon us. Rationing for the unwashed. Good luck Mr. Trump.

To: James Seagrove who wrote (125492)	11/30/2016 3:19:49 PM
From: louel	5 Recommendations Recommended By gg cox James Seagrove RJA_ see clearly now whistler3000 Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 219431

I read your links on Canada's healthcare system. Some truth to it but not really the way it sounds. 1 yes if those who can afford to. Wish to go elsewhere for quicker treatments instead of falling in line, They are at liberty to do so. They pay 100% of costs themselves at Mayo or anywhere else. That even includes seeking treatment in other Canadian Provinces outside of where they live. They are not forced to go elsewhere. It is a personal choice. When they do it simply shortens the line for others who require the same procedure. And leaves more money in the system for those who are dependent on the system. 2) Many doctors do move to the US. But there is also a lot of doctors and specialists from the USA, England, Africa, India and other countries who prefer to practice in Canada. When they submit their bills for services rendered. 100% of them get paid for by the Provincial healthcare system. They do not have to hire a collection agency. Further to the benefit of getting paid for what they do. Doctors in Canada cannot be sued like in the US. All Doctors have to be approved by the College of Physicians & Surgeons who grants their licence to practice. Complaints of malpractice or negligence are filed with the college and if they are substantiated. The penalty could be their licence and hospital privileges may be suspended or permanently removed. So they are exempt from the high cost of Malpractice insurance. 3) The article appeared to have been written from a viewpoint taken on the Ontario healthcare program. Healthcare in Canada. Although it is a national program and partially funded by the federal government. Each province individually administers healthcare tailored to resident requirements of their own particular province. That can be evidenced by such things as available treatments. Such as because of the Terry Fox foundation. Which supports Cancer research in BC. The drug Rituximab. An immunology drug used for a number of things. But especially for some Lymphatic Cancers (Previously considered terminal) was available in British Columbia 10 years before other Provinces in Canada. It was lab tested, considered effective and safe. But had not gone thru human testing. BC patients were given the option to opt in and receive the treatment if they wished. Cost paid by medicare was close to $100,000. Other provinces would not pay for the treatment till after it was proven to work. 4) Before any single payer system works and stay affordable. It must be done on a non profit basis. In Canada all Hospitals are owned by the people. There are no hospitals for profit. The Federally regulated program prohibits surcharges. Drugs administered in hospitals are free to patients and they can be generic which keeps costs down. 5) What the article did not mention when addressing wait times. If a patient upon examination is not considered critical by a system of checks and balances when they are entered into the system. They are ranked in order of urgency The most life threatening take priority. Those who are able to wait will be set forward a bit to allow the most needy to be treated. There would have have to be a lot of changes in patience and attitudes of the US people to put such a program like Canada's in place. I believe the British Columbia program is as good as there is in the Country. It is free to pensioners who also have their prescriptions subsidized. And a cost of less than $100 per month for family insurance. Which covers 100% of costs for unlimited doctor visits, Hospital stays, Operations, Chiropractor services, Therapeutic treatments and much more with out surcharge. It would be very difficult to find a Canadian resident who would trade the system for what is offered in the US. Cheers