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To: TimF who wrote (4484)1/3/2017 2:49:44 AM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 356067
 
What you are suggesting is not real.

We have a representative democracy and that is important and we should protect it.

This freedom crap gets old. It is not real. People who voice it have no idea what they are talking about.

Do you know who Will Durant is?

"In my youth I stressed freedom, and in my old age I stress order. I have made the great discovery that liberty is a product of order.

Will Durant



To: TimF who wrote (4484)1/3/2017 11:10:36 AM
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  Respond to of 356067
 
Its the government. Its something we vote for not us.

I think you make a good point. It reminds me of unions. I have had occasion to engage with unions from various angles. In a union arrangement, the union is a third party. It represents the workers but it also has a life of its own with its own agenda and mechanisms. Same thing as the government.

I posted that you and not to koan because he probably wouldn't appreciate the analogy.