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To: greenspirit who wrote (5705)1/5/1998 12:57:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 71178
 
Restaurants and bars are buldings, where the public go. Of course they are not owned by the public.

The difference between a bar and a home are many. One is a place of business held open to the public, one is not. One has a license from a city, one does not. One is regulated by the health department and regularly inspected, one is not. Numerous zoning issues apply and much much more. Shall I go on?

Sorry, my arguments cannot be made about homes. My argument presumes a place held open to the public. And it is you who seek to change the debate with all your maladroit analogies.

Why will you not address the real issue of harm? One class of people, say it with me, what do they do? Breath. Another class of people. What do they do? Foul the air for everyone. Who should the law protect? You have TWO rights here. The right to smoke and the right NOT to smoke. Answer this one question, which of these rights is more important?



To: greenspirit who wrote (5705)1/5/1998 4:48:00 PM
From: Janice Shell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
Mark my words the next assault against our freedoms (without a vote) will be our homes, and smoking will be involved.

It's already happened. People have been hired on the understanding that they don't smoke (BIIIGGG savings for the employer on his health insurance bills) and in fact don't smoke. In the office. And have then been forced to submit to urine tests, which caught them out. Another case: a person was refused a job because he/she (don't remember the details; happened in Florida a couple of years ago) smoked at home. These people have filed suit, and so far they've won. But I ask myself: for how much longer?

Not too much longer till we get the Potato Chip Police, the Steak Stormtroopers. Waht, exactly, SHOULD be done about really FAT people? They've had some success of late championing themselves as a victimized minority. Maybe we smokers should try the same.