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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (5326)	1/9/2017 10:07:50 AM
From: neolib	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356253

So why exactly is the rural sector the "broad sector" of the country. Acres count instead of people?

To: one_less who wrote (5326)	1/9/2017 10:54:55 AM
From: Cautious_Optimist	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 356253

What nags at me is the lack of our one-person-one-vote system to keep up with demographic shifts. Less populated states are given disproportional power in the senate and the electoral college. This should be THE REAL TEA PARTY OUTRAGE; taxation without representation. Today, states like New York, California and New Jersey subsidizing over-represented states like Wyoming, or South Dakota who receives twice the federal return of (tax-outflow outflow) California, with almost 2X as much power/per capita in the electoral college. Urban Industrial progressive America subsidizing disproportionally powerful rural states dominated by K Street commanded partisan new age Republicans. Lack of one-vote/person in federal elections... is a partisan situation that has led to a one-party state. (The Democrats are a big tent and broad political bandwidth party who could not and did not try to exploit their power trifecta as the Republicans are planning.) It was wonderful when the patriotic Tea Party and Ted Nugent waved AR-15s,and talked about how terrible our federal government was, especially the illegitimate Islamic communist Obama who was absolutely coming for the firearms with federal employees. Now that they are coming into total power they have no ability for FACT BASED criticism of their own Politicians and the corrupt, inept, America-weakening BS they are propagating. The ultimate flipflop. Total confirmation bias, willful blindness. Complete disrespect and Orwellian treatment toward moderately progressive precedents and specifically, Barack Obama's eight years.

To: one_less who wrote (5326)	1/9/2017 11:48:38 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 356253

It is not under dispute but we both know this is representative of a very narrow section of the Nation. I think one should cut folks some slack re this. First of all, their candidate lost. Then, the Electoral College, which was designed to protect the country from a popular vote for the likes of Trump, handed the election to him. Then, to add insult to injury, those who were so whatever as to vote for Trump are now too whatever to recognize that Clinton won the popular vote. Constantly mentioning the popular vote might seem the irksome beating of a dead horse, but not nearly as irksome given the circumstances as the ignorance on the other side. Poll: Trump won popular vote, say majority of Republicans www.businessinsider.com/poll-trump-popular-vote-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-12 Alex Lockie Dec. 18, 2016, 11:58 AM Supporters rally with Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump in Tampa, Florida, U.S. October 24, 2016. Thomson Reuters A survey conducted by the research company Qualtrics showed that 52% of Republican voters think that Donald Trump won the popular vote in November's general election, despite nationwide totals giving Hillary Clinton almost a 3 million-vote edge. The survey, published Sunday and first reported on by the Washington Post, found that in total, 29% of people surveyed thought Trump won the popular vote. An earlier Pew Research Center survey pegged that figure at 19%. Qualtrics found that education played a role in the likelihood of respondents saying Trump won more popular votes, with 60% of Republicans with high-school diplomas saying Trump won, compared to just 37% of college-educated Republicans. The Qualtrics question was phrased: "In last month’s election, Donald Trump won the majority of votes in the Electoral College . Who do you think won the most popular votes?" Only 7% of Democrats and 24% of independents said Trump won more popular votes. Trump, who won a sizeable victory in the Electoral College, has at several points weighed in on the popular vote, challenging its veracity while also seeming to concede he obtained fewer votes. "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," Trump tweeted in November, without providing any evidence that voter fraud occurred. While official vote totals have put Clinton ahead, less reputable sources have claimed otherwise. Some have even found prominence on the internet's top search engine, Google, amid a postelection focus on the spread of "fake news." In mid-November, Google searches for "final election count" — along with other, similar queries — returned with a link to a WordPress blog that cited sources on Twitter and falsely claimed that Trump handily won the popular vote.