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To: Lane3 who wrote (6087)1/13/2017 8:22:29 PM
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Don't misunderstand: My wife and I (particularly HER) took care of my mom and both her parents through long and difficult times. And I wouldn't have wanted it any other way.

But I was just making the point that the idea of SS was that each person was to be financially responsible for him/herself. The money that was put away in SS was destined to earn interest, and to form the basis of a kind of retirement supplement.

Today, as my kids pay into the plan, none of that money is for them, it is out SS's door before it gets there -- paying benefits for current retirees. I think ten years from now the willingness to continuing paying SS tax is going to be reduced.

I could be repeating here. But in early 80s, I read an article in the NY CPA Journal by a former chief actuary for SS. This was when the impending cash flow problems were looming large. And he explained why the program was in trouble, what some of the options were for replenishment, and then he closed with sort of a shocking comment, when he said words to the effect of, "By 2050, we might need a combined 40% tax rate to adequately fund the program and continue payments as projected."

In retrospect he probably wasn't far off. Of course, I'm pretty sure 2050 isn't going to be my problem. But it did provide a sense of trajectory. In just over 100 years time -- the program would have ripped through all the trillions it has taken and will be left with nothing. Probably in what will, in 2050, amount to a single lifespan.

I don't know how to make sense of such a program. When you're designing a retirement benefit, shouldn't it be assured of lasting more than a single lifetime before it is broke? I think it must or it really can't be considered of value to society.



To: Lane3 who wrote (6087)1/13/2017 8:37:26 PM
From: Heywood40  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 364328
 
It's like the flow of a river, a continual process.

At any point in time, the older parents are retired, their kids are working.

While the kids are paying in, their parents are drawing out.

Eventually the kids replace their parents, and their kids replace them.

Taking care of our ourselves in an ongoing, functioning system can not be separated out from taking care of our parents.