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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (8568)	1/29/2017 9:31:49 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 356948

There is no reason anyone would report it because there is not any apparent means of anyone knowing about it. There IS reason. Every time there's a close election the loser investigates. If there are irregularities, obviously they are reported. I just think there are workarounds for it. For example, obfuscated IDs. The default is always the status quo. You still have to demonstrate a compelling need to justify embarking on a program as big as what you propose. You haven't begun to do so. Nor have you begun to counter my arguments regarding what a burden it would be to build and administer. Did you read what I posted about the difficulty I had getting established when I moved to NC? And Bentway to Texas? Do you really think anyone could or would find it worthwhile to come up with two forms each of proof of identity, SSN, and residency for busloads of people? Really? If the REAL ID standard was deemed acceptable to Congress to defend against terrorists getting on planes, where one person can bring down a plane full of people and scare a country to death, do we really need a stiffer standard to vote, where one person's vote is virtually irrelevant? How would you justify putting a national priority on that? Really? (That's a rhetorical question. <g>)

To: i-node who wrote (8568)	2/5/2017 3:28:25 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356948

Washington (CNN)Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Sunday no federal money should be spent investigating voter fraud -- which President Donald Trump has falsely claimed cost him millions of votes. McConnell told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" he wants to leave the task of wiping voters who have died or moved away off their rolls to state governments. "This sort of thing is handled at the state level, and the Democrats always claim there's no election fraud at all. That is, of course, not true -- election fraud does occur. There's no evidence that it occurred in such a significant number that would have changed the presidential election, and I don't think we ought to spend any federal money investigating that," the Kentucky Republican said. Trump has asserted, without providing any evidence, that 3 to 5 million people voted illegally for Hillary Clinton in 2016 -- similar to the margin of Clinton's popular vote victory over Trump. He said he would launch a federal investigation into voter fraud. But the White House canceled an event where Trump was scheduled to take executive action ordering such an investigation more than a week ago and has not rescheduled. "I think the states can take a look at this issue," McConnell said Sunday. "Many of them have tried to tighten their voter rolls -- tried to purge people who are dead and otherwise not eligible to vote -- and I think we ought to leave that at the state level." From Scott Sumner: PS. This is also typical: President Trump’s heated rush to launch what he said would be a “major investigation” into voter fraud has cooled, leaving White House staff uncertain when it will come to pass or what shape it will take. I guess someone told him the investigation would not turn up anywhere near the 3 million extra voters he needs to win the popular vote. There is a very simple explanation of why voter fraud is rare. It involves three parts: 1. Voting is an altruistic act; you are very unlikely to impact the result. 2. Voting fraud is evil. 3. Evil people are selfish. That’s also why I don’t worry much about allowing ex-cons to vote. If you were the kinda guy who robs liquor stores, why the heck would you want to waste time voting, or even registering? And why would an illegal alien risk being deported simply to vote. I’m not saying it never happens, but let’s be realistic here.