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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (624688)	2/4/2017 3:08:49 PM
From: Katelew	1 Recommendation Recommended By skinowski Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

Maurice, what is your thinking on the Crimean election and annexation? At the time, it didn't seem to be unreasonable or even particularly unlawful. Wasn't Crimea an independent republic even though it was geographically sort of part of Ukraine. Since then, I've read recent polls that indicate Crimeans themselves are near 90% in approving the rejoining with Russia. That should count for something. But I'd like to know what you think. Also, what is your thinking on Ukraine? Is Putin actually trying to annex the whole of Ukraine? If so, would it be by military seizure or by swaying popular vote? I keep reading that Putin is intent on re-creating the old Soviet block, but I haven't googled any evidence to support this. I've heard people say Putin has 'invaded' other countries that were in the block, Georgia, for ex., but I can't find any written evidence for this either. Also, Ukraine looks to me like a badly governed country with a weak economy. If so, this would spawn an organic rebel movement, not needing Putin's assistance. Why is the blame put on Russia? What does Europe gain by supporting Ukraine, a poorly governed country that offers little in the way of trade? I was surprised, too, by Trump's Ukraine statements yesterday. I've read that some of the powers that be are alarmed because Putin is aligned with Iran. But the US, France, and I think Germany were the main forces behind lifting the Iranian sanctions and allowing Iran to pursue nuclear power generation. All of them also encourage the resumption of trade and investment in Iran. So what causes the mistrust of Putin's alliances with Iran? Investors aren't so wary. The largest fund, the Russia Fund, has run up dramatically.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (624688)	2/4/2017 4:32:51 PM
From: frankw1900	2 Recommendations Recommended By lightshipsailor Mrjns Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793838

Maurice, I think you are getting ahead of things. That UN speech pretty well outlines what Trump has inherited, not just from Obama, but also from the EU. That is what he has to start negotiating from. "Has" in both senses of the word. I think you are being a bit alarmist, Trump has only just got Tillerson installed who has got to do some renovations in State Department so folk there are not exactly singing from the same hymn book but are at least clear about what the boss's intentions are. From what I see from Trump and Putin neither of them are willing to push the other right now. The only matter of immediate urgency is that both countries are in Syria and neither wants accidental bad things happening there. But they can get their local folk there to work things out for time being. In the meantime they are obviously doing some exploratory talking in the back channels.