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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (9557)	2/4/2017 3:10:59 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 356329

and support the trillion dollar stimulus, the biggest one-shot waste of money in history. Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. Granted, the tax cuts were a waste of money, but the rest wasn't.

To: i-node who wrote (9557)	2/4/2017 3:18:35 PM
From: Sam	3 Recommendations Recommended By Alighieri bentway Wharf Rat Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 356329

And every one of them lost their next election. Even Rs that claimed to want to negotiate with Obama (e.g., Grassley, Snowden, Collins) just diddled around, hemming and hawing and moving the goalposts. It was never in good faith, it was always just a stall game because after all, we have the best medical system in the world and any changes would just make it worse (except of course tort reform and allowing insurance companies to cross state lines, so that their liabilities will be limited and they could set up shop in the most friendly state they could buy and not face any liability at all, whatever they did; those things would improve things immeasurably, especially the profits of the insurance companies or, in the case of so-called non-profits, the salaries of the executives and the consultants that they choose). It was back then that Obama got the reputation for being a poor negotiator (a reputation that I came to agree with more than not). Yeah yeah, I know, Rs claim that he ran roughshod over them. What nonsensical BS. Even when the Democrats proposed bills that Republicans had previously supported, they refused to vote for them. And refused to allow any of Obama's nominees a vote on the floor until Reid invoked the nuclear option so that they had no say. And I have seen people (even Rs) say, Oh the Democrats should treat Trump's nominees differently from the way Republicans treated Obama's because after all two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Rs refused to allow a vote on a well qualified candidate like Garland doesn't mean that the Ds should do the same for the R nominee. Right.