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To: skinowski who wrote (626059)2/17/2017 3:32:32 PM
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Not so insane, really. We/I was ready to do the same if they had dragged Hill across the finish line. This is a well thought out and well coordinated effort by the Left. It took a while but they scored a minor victory, and like some idiot football player whom does a victory dance for scoring a touchdown while still down 40 points, they will play it up for all its worth. Gives morale to the masses.

Trump needs to strike back and go after the controlling elites here. An indictment of Hillary would go a long way. I like what the Prez is doing for the most part, but he also has to realize that the media is the front line on this fight. He needs to step back from the front line - for the most part - and go after the Generals.

I would view this press conference in a different light, however. This was an opportunity to push the fake news narrative/fact, while calling out the news media on national tv, and making the fake news issue news. A master stroke on his part. Again.



To: skinowski who wrote (626059)2/17/2017 6:54:00 PM
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Trump has done something unforgivable much as FDR supposedly did in the thirties.

He is breaking up the squalid food fight of US elites much as the Brexit movers are doing to UK elites and as the various populists are doing in Europe.

The past forty years of growing economic inequality has led to a far larger number of very rich (the 1%), and educated folk than previously and they are competing for the limited number of positions of power. (A few have manged to expand the number of positions by developing expanded security apparatus, NGOs and think tanks).

What Trump is proposing opens the competition to the lower orders. He has not said it and may well have not thought it, but the outcome is necessarily even more destabilizing than the instability caused by the increase in numbers and good fortune of the present elite and the accompanying misfortune of everybody else.

The greater instability because there is increasing conflict between lower orders and elite.

So the cognitive dissonance of many who are not elite, but think their fortune is tied to the accepted model as espoused by the elites and their institutions, is enormous because they are speaking and acting against their own self interest.

Since we tend to deny our cognitive dissonance by dedicating ourselves - investing our emotions - in only one idea instead of analyzing how the two, or three, or more ideas generate the dissonance, we create anger and bewilderment in ourselves.

That's what majority of anti-Trumpers are doing. I expect they'll continue until they they are tired and can't generate any more anger.

The minority of them are rationally following their self interest and the majority are their foot soldiers.

The inflamed rhetoric of the SJWs and BLMs is necessary to maintain followers' or self's anger.

I think this latest anti Russian flare up thing started out, mostly, as an attempt to have some "kompromat" against candidate Trump - to balance off the avalanche of bad stuff coming out about Clinton. But, gradually, it acquired a momentum of its own, and by now it's dangerous. Lots of crazy stuff going on. Much of our Left, along with many psycho anti-Trumpists - are in a full revolutionary mode, ready to sink the country, as long as it hurts the president they hate. Insane.