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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (20330)	6/2/2017 12:35:53 PM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Recommended By bentway Mannie Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357865

You seem to be under the impression there is something to do about global warming other than study it or pay reparations. Good grief! What gave you that idea, particularly given that I stated up front that my issue was not about global warming? My point was not about whether or not to do anything wrt global warming. It was about pulling out of a worldwide agreement and doing so with great fanfare. How could that be misconstrued? And reparations? Where in the world did that come from? I've never remotely suggested anything along those lines. The most important contribution the United States can make to the cause of global warming today is to try to redirect research so that it becomes objective. I'm on record here wrt global warming. My position is exactly the same whether global warming is a big deal or whether it's a figment because, if the former, we've already missed the boat--too little to late. Rebooting the study of it would be just more fiddling while Rome burns. I spent some time on that post trying to be clear. I woke up this morning sad in the recognition that I had seen the zenith of US hegemony in the world, now in the rear view mirror. Trump with his tribalist, zero-sum mentality and supreme ignorance, has not just let that go but kicked it in the face and out the door. I wonder by whom and when it was first recognized that the Roman Empire was a goner. That's a sinking feeling. We had reached the tipping point and yesterday kicked off the downhill slide, with gusto. For no good reason. It was great while it lasted.

To: i-node who wrote (20330)	6/2/2017 12:52:19 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357865

"You seem to be under the impression there is something to do about global warming other than study it or pay reparations." There is. We can take actions which reduce the amount of warming by reducing green house gases, we can take actions which increase the amount of warming (drilbabydrill), we can begin feeble attempts to overcome the effects before they overcome us As Waters Rise, Miami Beach Builds Higher Streets and we can begin managed retreat. Message 31119588 "The most important contribution the United States can make to the cause of global warming today" is to be FF free. The most important contribution tomorrow would be to be FF-free. Someday, hopefully by 2050, it will be that day. Stanford engineers develop state-by-state plan to convert U.S. to 100% clean, renewable energy by 2050

To: i-node who wrote (20330)	6/2/2017 3:01:05 PM
From: Steve Lokness	2 Recommendations Recommended By abuelita bentway Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 357865

<<<<Because it has not been in the past>>>> Yes, good Lord that there are 3% of the scientist that do not agree - what is with that? I have to tell you node that I had hopes for Trump as I agree with some of his ideas. I liked America first, small tariffs on imports, the border thing, taxes on companies producing overseas - things like that. But you and other supporters of Trump really need to think his actions through. His decisions are extreme off the deep edge! This climate thing is the end for me. He is a tiny minded twit that seems to not have one single cohesive thought in his brain. He is making America the laughing stock. Supporters trying to rationalize his decisions are increasingly looking just plain out stupid.