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To: Scott Rafe who wrote (11401)1/7/1998 10:51:00 PM
From: craig crawford  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 77400
 
<< Layer 3 switch? Oh... you mean _router_. Gee. Does Cisco have any of those? ;-) >>

Aren't switches a fraction of the cost but several times faster?

A router by any other name...



To: Scott Rafe who wrote (11401)1/8/1998 10:33:00 AM
From: G. Richmond  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
Scott,

Hi there... Going to Comnet?, No

<<Think you might just see what "innovative" is all about.
That is innovative spelled with a capital CISCO.>>

Funny, where I come from, innovative is a new or better way of doing things, not a bunch of capital letters. I hope your not a marketing guy :-)

<< FWIW Cisco has had a 10/100 switch for many months.>>

Funny, you seem to have left out the autosense piece.

<< It is just a good new one ith a lower price point that has been recently announced. It is designed to kill Bay's little switch. >>

Sounds more like a knock off to me but why does the " INDUSTRY LEADER " always show up late to the party?

<< Layer 3 switch? Oh... you mean _router_. >>

No, I mean layer 3 switch. Cost per port significantly less than a router. It's meant to REPLACE ROUTERS in the core of the network.

<<Gee. Does Cisco have any of those? ;-)>>

Yeah, lot's of em. :-)

GR



To: Scott Rafe who wrote (11401)1/8/1998 7:47:00 PM
From: Tom Kiblin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 77400
 
Ahem, Kill Bay's little switch that has been shipping for almost a year - with all those acquisitions they (Crisco) have made, it took them this long to compete with a product we have had for a year or so?

They think they may have caught up with us on the 350T, but what do you think we have been doing for the last year while they were playing catch-up, picking our nose? No, we were designing the next generation 350T, perhaps next Winter they will catch up with us again.

As for the comment on "Layer 3 switching", this shows your lack of understanding of the technology. Today, traditional routing *is* their layer 3 story, slow, costly, slow, costly, slow, costly, did I mention it is slow and costly? Oh wait, they offer a Layer 3 product, it's called a routing blade in their hub, wow, FAST!

They haven't produced ANYTHING with the almost $300 Million they spent for Granite (Coal?). We have *shipping* product today based on our Rapid-City purchase. So when/if Cisco can catch us on our Gig/Layer 3 ASIC's, we will leave them behind again, as we are already working on our next generation Gig/Layer 3 products.

You keep buying those costly router ports, Cisco loves people like you! Funny, their fasest 7513 router can't compete with our BCN backbone router, which has been shipping for 4+ years.

Tom, a Bay Networks Bigot!