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To: Alex MG who wrote (344800)	8/2/2017 4:45:31 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 544187

>>... or maybe he was just talked into it by "the generals"<< I imagine every president has to face 'the generals', who's only tool is their particular hammer and every problem is just another nail to drive. I can't really imagine the fear mongering president's must face, knowing that American's ( and foreign allies ) safety depend on the decisions they HAVE to make. It's really curious that now we're depending on 'the generals' to keep Trump in check.

To: Alex MG who wrote (344800)	8/2/2017 5:11:21 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 544187

I was on the front lines of the Viet Nam protests. I got tear gassed and flunked a class we were boycotting because of a pro war professor. I marched and marched and marched and when I wasn't marching against the war, I was marching for civil rights-lol. I was in really good shape. I figured that war out when I joined the hippie movement. They educated me. When I joined the hippie movement it was very early. The minute I saw it I knew it, was my cup of tea. We had one table in the San Jose State cafeteria where we gathered. Virtually all my friends shunned me when I started sitting at that table. That was pretty tough. But I got poetic justice. Many were my poker buddies and they forced me to go down town and play against the pros. Something most were afraid to do. The pros taught me to play correctly and by the time most students had joined the movement, I was accepted back in again, my play was significantly better and I beat the shit out of them-lol. Anyway, that was one dumb ass war. The best book to read about it, IMO, is David Halberstram's "The Best and the Brightest". And the great irony is the dems got us involved, but then most turned against it including almost all liberals and the supporters in the end were the Trump supporters of the day. Thomas Frank said in his book: "listen liberals" that is what happened to the dems again in 2016,- group think-this time it being meritocracy?