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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zzpat who wrote (33798)	9/8/2017 11:10:25 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 363164

I think it was FDR who said, "no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country." I think it was me who said (in this post) that FDR didn't properly have a right to decide who had a right to do business in this country, except maybe for those who's business was fraud, or an attack on others (abduction for ransom, murder for hire, etc.) And insisting that companies pay more than the economic worth of the employee to the employer amounts to a prohibition of work for that employee. a working person shouldn't have to depend on government for their survival Why? Also poorer people than today's poor in the past survived with less or no welfare and no minimum wage (the later part in fact may have aided their survival). A true "living wage", meaning enough to survive, is low. What usually gets called a "living wage" is a wage that someone considered the minimum for an individual (or in some cases a small family) to survive on with one full time job. But many people at a minimum wage job, do not have that job (or that job and a government handout) as their sole means of support. They have more than one job, or someone else in their family has a job. Government action makes what's necessary to survive higher (for example, zoning and building standards increase housing costs, regulations on economic activity increase the costs of goods and services etc.), and can make the wage required to get that amount higher as well (people can't' as easily work extra hours because of overtime laws). That isn't to say all government rules that have this effect should be tossed out, some of them may serve some other important purpose the even if the law is or should be kept the impact should be noticed. Everyone knew when they'd start to retire and one party decided to deprive them of their money by creating massive debt. Both parties contributed to the massive debt, and going forward by far the biggest part of that debt will be due to entitlement spending (most but not all of which goes to retirees)