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To: Sam who wrote (351826)	10/8/2017 10:45:38 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541986

That may be true, but it isn't my impulse to go out there and defend him. If he did it - I don't expect anyone here or another venue to make excuses for him. That is the difference for me - either you have some principles and you follow them, or you don't. I'm just wondering about "traditional conservatives" who I knew and now they look around and say, I'm okay with this chicken hawk, Russian-sympathizer, serial adulterer, fake Christian, juvenile petty potentate that holds the WH is _OUR_ guy. How the hell did they cross that Rubicon and get to where they are today and not see him as the carnival barker he is?

To: Sam who wrote (351826)	10/8/2017 11:33:22 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541986

I do not think anyone would have said only republicans are pedos, or harass women, or commit fraud, or work with Russians against the US, or cheat on taxes, or do all the other nasty things people do. What matters, though, is when people elected to serve the public trust do these things. Criminals are terrible- but they'll always be around, however, we don't have to elect them. The weirdness is that anyone would see a film exec's crimes as somehow exculpatory for those of our elected officials. But the republicans have never struck me as brain trusts.