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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Steve Lokness who wrote (42623)10/30/2017 11:13:57 AM
From: Smart_Asset  Respond to of 364348
 
<<Manafort and Gates may be in a bit of a pickle here; how will Trump ever pardon him for THESE charges if they are true?>>

If by 'pickle' you mean a courtroom or a jail then I agree.

If Trump pardons those accused of conspiracy against the United States then some following the Trump presidency will realize the enormity of the charges swirling around the president. Some true patriot may perhaps arise from the thing that is our Congress.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (42623)10/30/2017 11:14:57 AM
From: Alex MG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 364348
 
Manafort and Gates are not the big news here

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI in connection with his attempts to make contact with Russian officials.

Papadopoulos sought dirt on Clinton, and to connect Russian officials with Trump campaign and lied about it, per FBI

Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos's false statements to the FBI are directly related to Russian interference

Papadopoulos's indictment is filled with references to unnamed people who are probably fucked.





To: Steve Lokness who wrote (42623)10/30/2017 11:38:13 AM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 364348
 
Trump could follow the Clinton playbook and issue the pardon as he's leaving office. Marc Rich was charged with almost the same things as Manafort, including conspiracy against the United States.

From Wikipedia on Marc Rich:

U.S. indictment and pardon[ edit]



2001 The Controversial Pardon of International Fugitive Marc Rich

In 1983 Rich and partner Pincus Green were indicted on 65 criminal counts, including income tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and trading with Iran during the oil embargo (at a time when Iranian revolutionaries were still holding American citizens hostage). [7] [18] The charges would have led to a sentence of more than 300 years in prison had Rich been convicted on all counts. [18] The indictment was filed by then- U.S. Federal Prosecutor (and future mayor of New York City) Rudolph Giuliani. At the time it was the biggest tax evasion case in U.S. history. [19]

Learning of the plans for the indictment, Rich fled [8] to Switzerland and, always insisting that he was not guilty, never returned to the U.S. to answer the charges. [Notes 1]Rich's companies eventually pleaded guilty to 35 counts of tax evasion and paid $90 million in fines, [7] although Rich himself remained on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Ten Most-Wanted Fugitives List for many years, [21] narrowly evading capture in Britain, Germany, Finland, and Jamaica. [22] Fearing arrest, he did not even return to the United States to attend his daughter's funeral in 1996. [23]

On January 20, 2001, hours before leaving office, U.S. President Bill Clinton granted Rich a highly controversial presidential pardon. Several of Clinton's strongest supporters distanced themselves from the decision. [24] Former President Jimmy Carter, a fellow Democrat, said, "I don't think there is any doubt that some of the factors in his pardon were attributable to his large gifts. In my opinion, that was disgraceful." [25] Clinton himself later expressed regret for issuing the pardon, saying that "it wasn't worth the damage to my reputation." [8]