To: Lane3 who wrote (47469 ) 12/5/2017 11:57:18 AM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 356776 >> The topic was his mental health. I avoid the topic because no reasonable individual would attempt to diagnose him from afar with any mental health issue. Well, Dr. Phil, maybe. The Goldwater rule takes its name from Barry Goldwater , the GOP nominee in the 1964 presidential election whom opponents labeled as a right-wing extremist and demagogue and was roundly defeated by Lyndon B. Johnson. The rule arose from a 1964 cover story in Fact magazine that had the headline, “ FACT: 1,189 Psychiatrists Say Goldwater is Psychologically Unfit to Be President! ” Although the headline was technically correct, it was also misleading, as the story was based on a survey sent to more than 12,000 psychiatrists, 80 percent of whom did not reply. 1 In response to the story, Goldwater sued Fact for libel (and won ), and the American Psychiatric Association created the Goldwater rule. 2 To even be discussing it is, IMO, beneath you. Saying he's an idiot or that you disagree with him or that he is a jerk or even arrogant, all are reasonable. But when you move into the realm of "mental health", you leave the realm of eccentricity and ego. Of course, we have free speech here, and if the Koans of the world want to accuse everyone who disagrees with them of this mental illness or that, they're allowed. (Apparently, professional ethics should prevent professionals from doing it, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore than it mattered that professional journalists decided advocacy is okay to keep Trump out). Trump is different, no doubt. But a stronger argument can be made that his predecessor was mentally incompetent than can be made Trump is. Obama, after all, stood by and did nothing with respect to serious foreign policiy threats, ignored advice of people far better informed than him, was arrogant, mean-spirited, racist, and generally left the country in worse shape than he found it by any objective evaluation that didn't center around an economy that came back a little in SPITE of him. He must be crazy.