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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (358740)	12/26/2017 3:07:20 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 542784

I agree with Nadler. There are constitutional issues as well as political ones. Politically, we should keep Trump in office as long as there are protections against him starting a war. He is an idiot and the more he tweets, the more people who aren't elderly white guys and women who don't essentially buy into patriarchy will see it. It will be important to get a majority in Congress in 2018 (especially the Senate), but even more important in 2020 both to keep it and to gain the presidency. Impeachment debate divides Democrats as 2018 wave builds If Democrats take back the House, they’ll immediately face pressure from their base to impeach Trump. But it may not be their best move. By KYLE CHENEY and HEATHER CAYGLE 12/26/2017 05:03 AM EST A tidal wave of liberal disdain for President Donald Trump may help deliver the House to Democrats in 2018. And if it does, the new majority will face an immediate, fateful choice: to pursue Trump's impeachment as the base demands, or to coax their allies away from the doomsday button. Democratic lawmakers acknowledge that their voters are hungry for Trump’s removal from office, even if there is no consensus on the grounds for his impeachment. Polls on the question show as many as three-quarters of Democrats already back impeachment, and one deep-pocketed ally, California megadonor Tom Steyer, has been mounting an expensive pressure campaign across the country to build support for Trump's impeachment. Democratic hostility toward the Republican president seems to intensify daily. But lawmakers who recall the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton are wary of sparking a political backlash for appearing too eager to remove a president without buy-in from independents and even some Republicans. Their tallest task may be persuading fellow Democrats to cool their jets. How the party handles the explosive question of impeachment could determine whether its new majority is still standing two years later. "Impeachment, it's not something you ought to welcome. It's not something you ought to be ready to — it's not something you want," said Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), who was elected by his colleagues last week to be the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, the panel that handles impeachment matters. If Democrats retake the House, Nadler will instantly become the party's gatekeeper on the issue. In fact, his expertise in constitutional law — as well as his outsized voice opposing the Clinton impeachment in 1998 — was a factor in his selection to lead committee Democrats. While he says impeachment would surely be on the table in a Democrat-led House, it's far from certain it would be the right call — politically or constitutionally. And it'll be up to his committee to tell voters why. "If we were in the majority and if we decide that the evidence isn't there for impeachment — or even if the evidence is there we decide it would tear the country apart too much, there's no buy-in, there's no bipartisanship and we shouldn't do it for whatever reason — if we decide that, then it's our duty to educate the country why we decided it," Nadler said in an interview. continues at politico.com