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To: THE ANT who wrote (137654)12/30/2017 10:36:48 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 219959
 
As you told me: Death will come. One way or another. Science tells how about we will die from.

Knowing that - a layman view mind you- what you eat defines how long you will live. How much you exercise defines the quality of your last years.

No vasectomy. No flu vaccine.
Skinny people stomachs are very tough to satisfy. We are choosy.
Overweight people eat anything.
I eat what my stomach asks for
My stomach always asks for fruits: papaya grapes bananas nectarines oranges. When exercising every week, I eat about 2Kg of bananas
I eat meat like a lion. Not so much fish. But lots of beef, pork and Chicken.
Eat a dozen eggs per week.
Drink lots o f milk

I hadrly drink packed juices. No Sodas. Which brings me to alcohol: Coke only coke mixed with Jack Daniels. Drink when going out. Or if Maureen sister who works for Qatar Airways brings me.
Beer. wine at home. but not very often.

Always have had low blood pressure.



To: THE ANT who wrote (137654)12/30/2017 3:30:08 PM
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  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 219959
 
When you're in HMO like Kaiser Permanente (as I was for the better part of 30 years) and you're older - your PCP will generally order a PSA run as part of comprehensive blood panel when you go in for your annual physical.

I had a sweet young female PCP and she preferred not to give a digital exam unless requested - preferred to rely on PSA.

This year I turned 65 and went onto Medicare. When I went in for my first Medicare physical my dr, a young Sikh took my PSA and did a digital exam. PSA was 2.8 but he said my prostate felt hard on one side and he wanted me to see a urologist. Urologist did an ultra sound to see if the hardness might be due to calcium build up - negative; so he did a biopsy which turned up 5/12 sectors cancerous and gleason score of 3+4.

Urologist wanted to do robotic surgery on me (his specialty). I said thanks, but no thanks. The risk / reward profile for surgery did not suit me. Didn't fancy the idea of wearing a catheter or having to wear diapers and all the other potential side effects as well as the generally long recover time.

My father had prostate cancer (around age 70 i thinks) and was treated with brachytherapy (with no further complications) and died earlier this year @ 91. My paternal grandfather had prostate cancer (not sure if treated) and died @ 93.

I'm 65 and having Proton Beam Therapy at the hospital that pioneered PBT in Loma Linda California.

So far, so good. Libido intact. Can still have sex. Very limited side effects so far. Corona beer has always been a favorite but last night tasted a little bitter - possible side effect???

Of course, dr says that I wont have any ejaculate when treatment is complete; so I suppose that'll be like when I wanked pre-puberty: sans juices, but great all the same.

_______

Also - I did have a vasectomy. Wasnt crazy about getting one but wife was done with kids after 6. My wife never took birth control pills and I was never a fan of condoms - hence the 6 kids. I cant say that I noticed much of a difference for myself as far as it affecting my sex life, but in retrospect I suspect all the testosterone I was shooting into my wife may have made her more perky all around (just a guess :)

You have some pretty strong opinions, as we all do, but these days most people tend to advocate for themselves and make their own decisions, regardless of what their dr might tell them. When you read / listen to / watch drs on the internet you discover many of them have their own personal agenda, just as my urologist had when he wanted me to go under his knife (he was not happy I chose another therapy over his "CURE"). Once he found out I was not going to have him treat me he offered recommendation of other drs and clinics UCSF, USC, etc... all places that offered therapies he offered. Ironically, the one he told me to avoid is Loma Linda --- I asked him why and he said "they don't even have a urologist there!". I told him they have oncologist and physicists (more important that urologist when your being treated with protons traveling 1/2 the speed of light).

I had a friend who was a physician that had a LOT of opinions on medicine that were outside the box. He fancied himself a rogue medical warrior. He pretty much had an answer for everything. The truth: he was a shitty dr. ---> the proof: State of California took away his license. Earlier this year he went to gym - had a heart attack and died. Age 55.

#prostate cancer
#proton beam therapy
#PBT



To: THE ANT who wrote (137654)12/30/2017 6:25:15 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 219959
 
I guess prostate cancer is a sexually transmitted disease like cervical cancer. Monogamy wasn't invented just for virtue signalling. It was survival in a red in tooth and claw world with microbes being champions.

Ducks do pair bonding and mostly monogamy too.

Staying lean and hungry is good. Contraceptive pills are bad.

Highest cholesterol at 70 = longevity? News to me and an unlikely story.

Never had a flu vaccine and am against meningitis vaccination having seen grandson smashed as an infant. I guess most vaccinations are a waste of time. Not just a guess.

Maybe cervical cancer vaccination is a good idea for men to stop prostate cancer.

Crohns disease = eat lots of vegetables and feed bacteria to fight candida tropicalis which gangs up with e coli to form an inflammatory slime.

A few years ago I told a friend with Crohns that my guess was to eat lots of vegetation but did not then know about candida tropicalis.

Plants also produce millions of chemicals to do battle with microbes so having them in our gut is good for that reason as well as providing nutrients and good bacteria food.

I get psa tested and mine's about 2.1 I like that. Pair bonded for 44 years. Hopefully escaped hpv and whatever else.

High fructose fruit okay by me. Bananas = yum. Grapefruit a delight and since they can't be eaten with various medications I guess they are very good in some pharmacological way. Such as giving cancer cells a hard time and activating immune system in general. Hardly scientific but good enough for me.

Just checked and they are low in fructose. Looks like my preference is lower fructose. But cherries, watermelon in season are yum. Don't get fructose elsewhere other than rarely.

Mqurice



To: THE ANT who wrote (137654)12/30/2017 6:57:00 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 219959
 
re <<PSA>>

... believe saved my life. it is just another bit of info to consider. more info may be bad for a society / popolation, but good for individuals if used correctly. sometimes use involves ignoring.

the fast death of a friend from aggressive prostate cancer after he warned me do annual check skipped for 36 months led to note of PSA over 4.

immediate decision for biopsy led to discovery of 3+3.

fast considered surgery and pathology test post surgery removed the problem.

simple changes in life style given above warning has been good

re <<5 years ago a well done study recommended what I had known for 20 years, skip the PSA Consider fasting every couple of days. Slows down the growth of all cells and cancer cells even more. I think women's breast cell grow 5 times slower on every other day fasting. Aging and cancer tend to be related to number of cell divisions. If I was a woman with young age breast cancer in the family I would fast every other day, but who is out there teaching these poor women.>>

... my only dialogue re prostate cancer was in 1984 and 1989, when my dad and uncle, respectively, got diagnosed with symptomatic late-stage prostate cancer. both cancers had progressed up the spinal cord.

the doctor figured that my uncle got 6-12 months. i was already in hk and visited him often. he was a big-time barrister, had much resources, lots of doctoring, but passed away (1989) w/i 8 months at age 88.

the doctors figured my dad had 3-6 months, could not do anything for him except oestrogen treatment to ameliorate the symptoms. the whole body scan three months later determined that he was cancer free, up and down the spinal cord, and even free in prostate. my dad passed away in 1995 from open heart surgery complications. the cancer never returned. the doctors explanations were "he feels his work is not done, wants to live, and is happy-go-lucky".

my half brother (17 years older than i) got the cancer perhaps 15 years ago, at 60. did radiation and is well today at age 75.

i had been monitoring my psa since 1984, watch and brief, and knew what to do once i went over 4. i wish i knew about fasting and such back then.

my surgery was successful and i recovered from side-effects within 6 months. guessing my age and regular exercise helped the relatively fast recovery.

re <<By 80 about 80% of men have prostate cancer.>>

... probably "By 80 about 80% of men can be diagnosed with prostate cancer."

my niece works for intuitive surgical (the folks who make the key-hole surgery robot that was used on me), had given me a compiled presentation of peer-reviewed studies and a particular study one sticks in mind, that of pathology tests performed on prostate of 38K traffic-death victims, and indicated ~80% had diagnosed or undiagnosed prostate cancer. the traffic-death victims were of course male / random / ages 17-70(?).

re <<The rule is you are much more likely to die with it than from it >>

... was aware of the rule, that which is good for population / society, but not great for individual. i choose to use the information i was given to change prospective outcome ala heisenberg uncertainty principle. i understand what angelina jolie chose to do even as at the time i was puzzled.

my take is that medicine is partly science <=> clinical evidence, but partly art and luck. and in my father's case, magic.

i suspect but have no proof, that whether any particular prostate cancer case is aggressive or not partly depends on the position of the cancer(s) w/i the prostate and whatever encourages growth or not.

re <<Stay away from high fructose fruits>>

... my life style changes since 2015 are actually quite simple, else i cannot keep to it.

- biggest change: cut out daily 2-bottles of starbucks frappuccino ice coffee
- second biggest change: stop drinking all fruit juices except coconut water and watermelon juice occasionally
- third biggest change: instead of tea, water throughout the day, with slices of lemon

regularise earlier trends
- sleep much (so i switch off cell phone / iPad / computer @ 5:30 / 6:00pm)
- small dinner generally, at home, easy on carbohydrate
- early to bed (8:30pm latest)
- early to rise (3:30 / 4:00am)
- walk to work (~10,000 steps)
- oat meal, blue berries for breakfast at office
- small lunch or skipped lunch
- return home 1:30 / 2:30pm
- if have dinner engagement then engage first w/ reflexology and nap before

re <<Remember at 70 the man with the highest cholesterol lives the longest.>>

- am of belief that if it is not high cholesterol it is not worth eating :0)
- am high in good cholesterol and high in good to bad cholesterol
- the brain needs cholesterol
- the body makes cholesterol anyway

re <<Get your kids to be MDs then not practice it other than for health and family. They will need to stay up on their reading to be at the cutting edge. They must avoid group think.>>

... sound advice. boy trending towards computers and such, but probably meaningless at this stage. girl trending towards biology

re <<... refuse the flu vaccine until you are 70 or unhealthy>>

so far had always done without.

generally believe information is a good idea. filtering, sifting, deliberating etc important, and thus dialogue important.

comments such as "You look like old people discussuing ...
... yesterday and today were rest days from the gym.

... Tomorrow chest and legs.
" is of dubious value underpinned by questionable motive, or otherwise not only meaningless but in the long run self-destructive, and frankly seems cretin-esque to the point of clown-like.



To: THE ANT who wrote (137654)12/31/2017 4:48:53 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 219959
 
btw, the emperor ate two meals per day flavorandfortune.com