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To: i-node who wrote (50411)	1/2/2018 12:41:29 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 364536

"You still support FSM?" I dunno; it launched Raygun on his career, so I have mixed feelings.

To: i-node who wrote (50411)	1/2/2018 1:50:29 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 364536

You still support FSM? Dunno about koan, but I am an ardent Pastafarian. I was touched by his Noodly Appendage some decades ago, and found a home...

To: i-node who wrote (50411)	1/2/2018 2:08:27 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 364536

You still support FSM? " Part 2... "I'm not sure where you are headed with that question, but here's the little-known successor to the FSM; the filthy speech movement. It flopped in the short term, cuz... talk responsibly. 2/23/2017, Inside Higher Ed, Yiannopoulos and the Moral Crisis of Campus Conservatism, Robert Cohen "So Yiannopoulos’s Republican campus hosts are at miscast as the Free Speech Movement’s political descendants. If there is any free speech dispute from Berkeley in the 1960s that the Yiannopoulos affair resembles (and even here the resemblance is limited) it is the obscenity controversy that erupted in spring 1965, a semester after the Free Speech Movement. That controversy concerned the right to use the obscene word 'Fuck' in public campus discourse. Some Free Speech Movement veterans supported this right, and others (like Savio) objected to the punishment of obscenity protesters on due process grounds. But most movement veterans and much of the Berkeley student body refused to rally to this cause because they felt that this use of obscenity was irresponsible and distracted from more serious issues facing the civil rights and antiwar movements. That’s why journalists who labeled this obscenity affair 'the Filthy Speech Movement' erred, as it was impossible to build a mass movement at Berkeley in defense of obscene speech, impossible to re-assemble the old Free Speech Movement coalition for such a cause. Most of the Berkeley student body in 1965 was too wedded to the ideal of responsible political discourse to wave the 'Fuck' banner. In this sense they were more genuinely conservative than today’s Berkeley College Republicans who not only wink at Yiannopoulos’s obscenity, but also at its use to defame minority students." From: fsm-a.org