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To: RetiredNow who wrote (1058449)3/3/2018 3:59:35 PM
From: locogringo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571871
 
Check out the discrepancies for the last 10 years: (more years at link and better chart formatting, but you get the idea especially for the last 10 years) China is doing ½ of the world's production.

en.wikipedia.org


Name of Countries having largest steel production (up to 2017 data)


Country/Region 2017 [1] [8] 2016 [1] [9] 2015 [10] 2014 [11] 2013 [12] 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2000 1990 1980 1967
World 1691.2 1606.3 1620.4 1670.1 1649.3 1552.9 1490.1 1413.6 1219.7 1326.5 1351.3 850.1 770.4 716.4 497.2
1 People's Republic of China 831.7 786.9 803.8 822.7 779.0 724.7 683.3 626.7 573.6 500.3 494.9 128.5 66.4 37.1 14.0
- European Union [13] 168.7 162.3 166.2 169.3 166.4 168.6 177.7 172.8 139.3 198.2 210.2 193.5 191.8 208.0 n/a
2 Japan 104.7 104.8 105.2 110.7 110.6 107.2 107.6 109.6 87.5 118.7 120.2 106.4 110.3 111.4 62.0
3 India 101.4 95.5 89.6 87.3 81.2 77.3 72.2 68.3 62.8 57.8 53.5 26.9 15.0 9.5 6.3
4 United States 81.6 78.5 78.9 88.2 87.0 88.6 86.2 80.6 58.2 91.4 98.1 101.8 89.7 101.4 115.0
5 Russia 71.3 70.5 71.1 71.5 69.4 70.6 68.7 66.9 60.0 68.5 72.4 59.1 n/a [14] n/a [14] n/a [14]
6 South Korea 71.1 68.6 69.7 71.5 66.0 69.3 68.5 58.5 48.6 53.6 51.5 43.1 23.1 8.5 0.3
7 Germany 43.6 42.1 42.7 42.9 42.6 42.7 44.3 43.8 32.7 45.8 48.6 46.4 44.0 51.1 41.3
8 Turkey 37.5 33.2 31.5 34.0 34.7 35.9 34.1 29.0 25.3 26.8 25.8 14.3 9.4 2.5 1.0
9 Brazil 34.4 30.2 33.3 33.9 34.2 34.7 35.2 32.8 26.5 33.7 33.8 27.9 20.6 15.3 3.6
10 Italy 24.0 23.3 22.0 23.7 24.1 27.2 28.7 25.8 19.7 30.6 31.6 26.8 25.5 26.5 15.9
11 Taiwan 23.2 21.8 21.4 23.1 22.3 20.7 20.2 19.8 15.8 19.9 20.9



12 Ukraine 22.7 24.2 22.9 27.2 32.8 32.9 35.3 33.6 29.9 37.3 42.8 31.8 54.6 [14] 52.3 [14] n/a [14]
13 Iran 21.8 17.9 16.1 16.3 15.4 14.5 13.0 12.0 10.9 10.0 10.1 6.6 1.4 0.5 -
14 Mexico 20.0 19.0 18.3 19.0 18.2 18.1 18.1 17.0 14.2 17.2 17.6 15.6 8.7 7.1 3.0
15 France 15.5 14.6 15.0 16.1 15.7 15.6 15.8 15.4 12.8 17.9 19.3 21.0 19.0 23.1 19.6
16 Spain 14.5 13.6 14.9 14.3 13.7 13.6 15.6 16.3 14.3 18.6 19.0 15.8 12.9 12.8 4.5
17 Canada 13.7 12.7 12.5 12.7 12.4 13.5 13.1 13.0 9.0 14.8 15.6 16.6 12.3 15.9 8.8
18 Poland 10.3 8.9 9.1 8.6 8.0 8.4 8.8 8.0 7.2 9.7 10.6 10.5 13.6 19.5 10.4
19 Vietnam 10.3 [15] 7.8 [15] 5.7 5.9 5.6 5.3 4.9 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.3 0.3 0.1 0.1 -
20 Austria 8.1 7.4 7.7 7.9 7.9 7.4 7.5 7.2 5.7 7.6 7.6 5.7 4.3 4.6 3.0
21 Belgium 7.7 7.7 7.2 7.3 7.1 7.4 8.1 8.1 5.6 10.7 10.7 11.6 11.5 12.3 9.7
22 United Kingdom 7.5 7.6 10.8 12.1 11.9 9.6 9.5 9.7 10.1 13.5 14.3 15.2 17.8 11.3 24.3
23 Egypt 6.8 5.0 5.5 6.5 6.8 6.6 6.5 6.7 5.5 6.2 6.2 2.8 2.2 1.0 0.4
24 Netherlands 6.8 6.9 7.0 7.0 6.7 6.9 6.9 6.7 5.2 6.8 7.4 5.7 5.4 5.3 3.4
25 South Africa 6.3 6.1 7.6 6.6 7.2 7.1 6.7 8.5 7.5 8.3 9.1 8.5 8.7 9.1 3.7
26 Australia 5.3 5.3 4.9 4.6 4.7 4.9 6.4 7.3 5.2 7.6 7.9 7.1 6.6 7.6 6.3
27 Slovakia 5.0 4.8 4.6 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.2 4.6 3.7 4.5 5.1 3.7 5.1 [16] n/a [16] n/a [16]
28 Pakistan 5.0 3.6 2.9 2.4 1.9 1.6 1.6 1.4 1.2 2.0 1.1 1.0 0.8 - -
29 Saudi Arabia 4.8 [15] 5.5 5.7 6.3 5.4 5.2 5.3 5.0 4.7 4.7 4.6 3.0 1.8 0.1 -
30 Indonesia 4.8 [15] 4.8 4.9 4.4 2.6 2.3 3.6 3.6 3.5 3.9 4.1 2.9 2.8 0.5 -
31 Sweden 4.7 4.62 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.3 4.9 4.8 2.8 5.2 5.7 5.2 4.5 4.2 4.7
32 Argentina 4.6 4.1 5.0 5.5 5.2 5.0 5.7 5.1 4.0 5.5 5.4 4.5 3.6 2.7 1.3
33 Czech Republic 4.6 5.3 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.1 5.6 5.2 4.6 6.4 7.1 6.2 9.7 [16] n/a [16] n/a [16]
34 Thailand 4.5 3.8 3.7 4.1 3.6 3.3 4.2 3.7 3.6 5.2 5.6 2.1 0.7 0.5 -
35 Kazakhstan 4.4 4.2 3.6 3.7 3.3 3.9 4.7 4.3 4.1 4.3 4.8 4.7 7.4 [14] n/a [14] n/a [14]
36 Finland 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 3.5 3.8 4.0 4.0 3.1 4.4 4.4 4.1 2.9 2.5 0.4
37 Romania 3.6 3.3 3.4 3.2 3.0 3.3 3.8 3.9 2.7 5.0 6.3 4.7 9.7 13.2 4.1
38 United Arab Emirates 3.3 3.2 3.0 2.4 2.9 2.4 2.0 0.5 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 - - n/a
39 Malaysia 2.8 2.8 3.8 4.3 4.7 5.6 5.9 4.1 4.0 6.4 6.9 3.7 1.1 0.2 0.1
40 Qatar 2.6 2.5 2.6 3.0 2.2 2.1 2.0 2.0 1.4 1.4 1.1 0.7 0.6 0.5 -
41 Belarus 2.4 2.2 2.6 2.5 2.2 2.7 2.6 2.5 2.4 2.6 2.4 1.5 1.5 [14] - -
42 Luxembourg 2.2 2.3 2.1 2.2 2.1 2.2 2.5 2.5 2.1 2.6 2.9 2.6 3.6 4.6 4.5

Portugal n/a 2.0 2.0 2.1 2.1 2.0 2.0 1.5 1.6 2.0 1.9 1.1 0.8 0.7 0.3

Soviet Union - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 96.9 [17]
Others [18] n/a n/a n/a n/a 28.4 29.5 29.9 26.5 (est.) 23.3 (est.) 28.6 (est.) 30.7 (est.) n/a n/a n/a n/a



To: RetiredNow who wrote (1058449)3/3/2018 4:26:13 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571871
 
What you would do was not the thesis of my post. It was what trump did.

He shot from the hip and it was stupid.

The idea alone was stupid, but to say it was "good and easy to win " is double stupid.

It will be a disaster. and---

One should not think in terms of "winning" a trade war, at least openly, but as putting in place good policy for both nations.

My point is that trump is irresponsible.