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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: combjelly who wrote (66213)4/11/2018 10:43:02 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 358076
 
It might be more comfortable to say they should just quietly starve to death instead of exploiting other ways to get money,

If that were the case, humans (or any other species) would never have evolved. The problem on the right is they are too in denial of reality to figure that out. The Gods supposedly created us humans with human rights and morals rather than us being the evolved offspring of non-human things that figured out how to survive and reproduce. Understanding reality is a useful thing...



To: combjelly who wrote (66213)4/12/2018 8:38:32 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 358076
 
It makes sense for crime to go up if there are few economic opportunities.

It also makes sense for economic opportunities to go down if there is crime.

As was pointed out in the article, the conservatives have their narrative. So have the liberals. I understand your preference for your narrative. I'm suggesting that the economic/pathology thing works both ways. One could look at it as a downward spiral or chicken and egg.

The notion that cushy union jobs may have made people soft and entitled thus precipitating some of the pathology or at least contributing to an environment that allowed it is not implausible.

Now you can argue they shouldn't have children, but that is a pretty strong drive in humans.

I can argue that it is irresponsible to have children until and unless one has the wherewithal to raise them properly. (I can comfortably argue that because it's a choice I made.) I can also argue that the ability to delay gratification is an established standard for maturity. Babies and credit cards are contributing factors to difficulties when the economic winds blow cold. The cohort we are discussing is not entirely the innocent victim as in your narrative.