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To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (10705)	1/13/1998 10:45:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Robert. DO you think all Israel in the Old Testament was the True Israel of God? Or is it only the Church? Is the True Israel of God the Jews of the New Covenant? Was Hamans edict to kill only a part of the Jews or all of the Jews? Even though some were not so great God always provided an intercessor for them as He still does and will. Also, His judgements for the enemies of Israel took time, sometimes 400 years or more. The thing most overlooked is that God so loved the world (sinners). You say everyone is from satan Jews and non-Jews who don't agree with you. God told Jobs friends that they did not say what was right of Him as Job did. Your doctrine sounds like the friends of Job. I don't fall into the category of ignore everyones sins and love them without the truth. The Lord used grace and truth and we are also required to demonstrated the 1 Cor. definition of love and the fruits of the Spirit. I have yet to see the harsh approach of you and Emile win anyone and has created alot of hostility to many. We are to let the Holy Spirit circumcise our hearts and show love and PATIENCE. Nancy

To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (10705)	1/14/1998 12:26:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Robert; There are many believing Jews in Israel, and I myself am a believing Jew. Please do not insult my intelligence with your twisted Fables and Judgmental spirit. You and Emile are the ones who are Anti-christ, you wish the current Israel to be destroyed, Israel was a barren land before the Jews recaptured it and it has blossomed just as the Bible depicted to it's current state. Below Robert and Emile are verses out of the Bible depicting the false Christ's (Christians) You and Emile are that which the Bible depict's as false Christ's that is depicted in the following verses; 8: And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. 9: But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. 10: Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11: And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 12: But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. I am breaking in hear you see were it say's for my NAME'S SAKE that is EXACTLY what you are saying. You are calling Jews anti-christ you are using his name (Christ) to persecute the Jews with as a means to destroy them. You would define this verse as you being persecuted. READ WHAT THE VERSE SAY'S. 13: And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14: Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15: For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16: And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. Again above you will be hated of all men for my name's sake. Again you calling the Jews Anti-christ you are using his name directed towards the Jews so the effect is EXACTLY WHAT THIS VERSE DEPICTS hated by all men by using Christ name YES THE JEWS ARE ANTI-CHRIST'S LET'S KILL THEM ALL. Read and stop twisting Scripture. 18: But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19: In your patience possess ye your souls. 20: And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Look above and READ "Jerusalem compassed with armies" is that not what is happening today. Everyday the Jews have to deal with being attacked. READ 21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22: For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. So Robert sad to say but you and Emile are Anti-christ, you are the deceivers, with your words many Jews will be persecuted in Christ's name just as the Bible depicts. " You represent yourselves as Christian's but you are the false Christ's that the Bible depicts (False Christians) Preaching lies that will deceive many. It doesn't say you will be persecuted because you truly believe in me but persecuted for my NAME,S SAKE. Alan