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To: Keith Hankin who wrote (6744)	1/13/1998 11:48:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 64865

I don't know what the problem is but they need to start offering more for less versus more or less the same thing for more money and less ease-of-use. Since I was on the subject, what is with these spelling checkers! The only time SoftWindows really bogged down was when I used the spelling checker on a 130-page Word document. HELLO!!!!! Put it in a thread and run it concurrently as they type but bothering them only when they ask for immediate checks. That way, when somebody does want to check the whole enchilda, you aready have your spelling errors list squirrelled away! Obviously that doesn't apply in this case since they were running an existing product via SoftWindows, but I thought that maybe somebody at Sun might be listening and take the idea over to IBM.

To: Keith Hankin who wrote (6744)	1/13/1998 11:51:00 PM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

So pop a graphics board in one of the PCI slots (of course, the software might not be there just yet, but it won't be long, IMHO) ...

To: Keith Hankin who wrote (6744)	1/14/1998 1:43:00 AM
From: Chung Yang	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

You do have a point with the graphic support. But remember, this Sun line is not meant to compete with PC in home desktops so you can play doom all day. They are meant to sit in offices running engineering and science applications. These machines are not targeted toward you or me, but toware the company that you work for. There is a big difference. If you pull up Compaq or DELL web site, you will notice that the home PC and workstation configuration are very different. In comparison the workstations don't e have the 32bit soundcard, the 4MEG ram graphics card, or the surround sounds speakers. But it does have 64MEG RAM, I/O throughput faster then most PCs, and 10/100MEG bit network card built in. And they can be networked together to run distributive processing much better than PCs, and it can server as a low end server handling loads higher and perform faster than PCs. For enterprise solution this is a pretty good deal. I read the inforword article, it is interesting. But it is obviously written from a perspective of a home user and not that of a IT manager. - Chung >>> I agree with you, Rod. They are making the most stupid, dumb-ass mistakes that will result in a non-competitive product. Moreover, on the hardware side, checking out the following review of the Darwin line: infoworld.com Here, I see Sun making the most stupid, dumb-ass mistakes, but this time in hardware. Why the fk do they insist on delivering 256-bit color on their low-end systems? Even the $800 PCs have High Color. This will eat Sun alive. Right now I am typing this on a Sun Ultra, which I use enthusiastically everyday, but the f***g lack of High Color support pisses me off to no end. Moreover, since they need it to compete with PCs, they need to bundle more "productivity" software with it, as is done on PCs. And it must be supported natively, not through the SoftWindows product. Why would someone buy this to run Microsoft Office97 and have it run as if it was slower than a 100MHz Pentium? Moreover, at the beginning of the review, it indicates that PC systems offer more features at similar price points. So why buy the Darwin Ultras? Once again, it looks like too little, too late. <<<