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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (75118)6/2/2018 6:17:36 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 363177
 
"Trump/Nixon et.al. could only be charged with obstruction justice if there is a different action, a criminal one, that they are aware of. And one that they are trying to prevent from being investigated/prosecuted"

If Trump isn't aware of Russia by now, he's in denial.


" He can't obstruct justice when it comes to the hiring and firing cabinet and DoJ officials "
Nixon thought that when he committed the Sat. Night Massacre. How did that work out?
Two words: CORRUPT INTENT

"since 'collusion' isn't illegal"
The legal term is "conspiracy". It's a crime.
18 U.S.C. § 371 - U.S. Code Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure ..
Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States .

"even if what you lefties delusionally believe were to be true (that Trump colluded with Putin),"
The best outcome is that nobody conspired with anybody. That leaves us with the hack and with the Facebook thing, both of which are illegal. 13 Russians and 3 companies have been indicted for the latter. That's bad enuf.

"their needed to be a real crime to even appoint a Special Prosecutor"
You can read all about it here:
Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections

"The Korean War is ending"
That would be good. I think I can sorta remember it beginning.



To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (75118)6/2/2018 6:21:29 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 363177
 
In other words, the president is not only above the law, he is the law.

Yeah. That is exactly what the Founders had in mind when they put together the Constitution...



To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (75118)6/2/2018 8:37:28 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 363177
 
How do you know that shit? Do you have a law degree?

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Trump cannot obstruct justice ...

It is true, He can't obstruct justice when it comes to the hiring and firing cabinet and DoJ officials
and he also is legally allowed to tell the DoJ people what he wants them to do. He could even ask them to arrest Mueller himself (for jay-walking) and it wouldn't be obstruction of Justice. That is true.

Trump/Nixon et.al. could only be charged with obstruction justice if there is a different action, a criminal one, that they are aware of. And one that they are trying to prevent from being investigated/prosecuted, etc...
And since "collusion" isn't illegal, even if what you lefties delusionally believe were to be true (that Trump colluded with Putin), since "collusion" isn't a crime the President is with is right to prevent the DoJ from pursuing an investigation into it. There needs to be a real crime, just like their needed to be a real crime to even appoint a Special Prosecutor. Look Muellers time is up, the OG report comes out next week.
The Korean War is ending. #winning

You can take that to the Supreme Court and put a stick in it.