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To: combjelly who wrote (76187)	6/7/2018 7:12:48 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 358095

I don't think Einstein ever accepted the probabilistic nature of the universe e.g. one can never know both the position and velocity for sure. The more you know about one the less you know about another. That was the actual debate between Einstein and his folks and Neils Bohr and his quantum guys. He accepted he could not prove otherwise but felt there was an underlying reality we did not understand e.g. Unified filed theory. But many said Einstein fell behind the times later in life. He did all his good work in his 20's. I love the idea of quantum physics and a probabilistic universe as it makes sense to me that it is so large and complex. It allows for a google times a zillion sentient beings who still can never know it all-ever. The dark matter expanding the universe is probably vacuum energy which increases as the universe expands.

To: combjelly who wrote (76187)	6/7/2018 8:50:13 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By Brian Sullivan Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358095

Perhaps that was a poor example for me to have used. The point I intended was that there is still a lost of science that we may not have the tools and methods to understand at this point. Like neurology, where a great deal of progress has been made there are huge gaps in the knowledge and understanding yet to be reached. The pace of learning today is astounding to me. Pick a field, and the level of knowledge is exploding, outlying in chemistry, physics, medicine, computer science and the nano sciences. But I agree just a probabilistic element does not represent a hole in knowledge, necessarily. I think it took some time, really around the time of Einstein and the others, where they were certain god didn’t play dice or whatever. Turns out, there is an element of gambling all around us.