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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Katelew who wrote (77120)	6/12/2018 8:24:06 PM
From: combjelly	2 Recommendations Recommended By bentway Land Shark Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358989

Before Canada gets rid of their tariffs on US milk, the US will have to get rid of government subsidies on dairy products. And that is extremely unlikely to happen. I dunno if you ever followed any of the fights over the decades on farm subsidies. But they can be brutal. Large agricorps spend lots of money in Congress.

To: Katelew who wrote (77120)	6/12/2018 8:25:13 PM
From: Wharf Rat	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Respond to of 358989

"Trump is asking Canada and the EU to get rid of all tariffs and subsidies and the US will do the same." Yeah, right,,, Government Subsidies (Farm, Oil, Export, Etc) US tariffs vary a lot, but the highest duties tend to be on imported clothing

To: Katelew who wrote (77120)	6/13/2018 1:01:17 AM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358989

The whole thing makes many Canadians angry. nonsense.

To: Katelew who wrote (77120)	6/13/2018 8:08:26 AM
From: Lane3	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Respond to of 358989

I'm not sure what you are referring to here I was referring to the post to which I responded, which addressed Trump seemingly favoring free trade. If you think Trump ran on protectionism, you're mistaken. Trump's ran on the idea that trade should be fair. Free trade is fair. Dueling tariffs, not so much. Protecting a dairy industry is no different from protecting a manufacturing industry. And "fair" does not mean favoring "us" over "them" although most people assess it that way. (Just try working with unions to appreciate the corruption of the word, fair.) And "free" does not utilize inter-government deals. From March 7, 2016, a supposed advocacy of free trade: HANNITY: You know, everyone says, when you talk about this, that you're going to fight for tougher trade deals, they say, Oh, that's protectionist. I don't hear that from you. I hear you're going to go in there, bang on the table and get better trade deals that will fix this imbalance, especially with countries like China and Mexico. I don't hear -- I've never heard you say the word protectionist, not one time. But some of your opponents say that. TRUMP: Not at all. HANNITY: What is your answer? TRUMP: Not at all. Well, they say it for their own reasons. Look. I love free trade. I love the concept of free trade. Everything about it is good. I went to the Wharton School of Finance. They say, Let's go free trade. But you know, it has to be smart trade. It has to be trade that's good for the United States, not just for the other countries. And if you look at China -- and frankly, Vietnam now is doing a big number, and you look at Japan and India and Mexico -- Mexico's killing us at the border and they're killing us with trade. You look at Ford. Ford is building a $2.5 billion plant in Mexico to make cars, trucks and parts. So it has nothing to do with anything. I love free trade, but we need great leadership to have real free trade. And we don't have good leadership. We have leadership that doesn't know what it's doing.