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To: JohnM who wrote (376849)7/13/2018 12:05:12 PM
From: zzpat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
The polls also hurt Clinton. She was going to win so a lot of people didn't bother to vote. Without bad polling (was it done on purpose) Clinton would have won also.



To: JohnM who wrote (376849)7/13/2018 12:14:42 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542214
 
>> Two rather obvious reasons. The first is that the socialist/communist tag

I know that most of the older crowd thinks so, but that is part of the sea change I am talking about. That label is no longer what it used to be. The Soviet Union has been dead longer than many voters even remember. Furthermore, even a casual review of pop-culture will show you that many younger people have a highly negative view of Capitalism and believe in the need for some socialistic balance.

>> The second is that Bernie had much less support among African American women than Clinton.

But with the right party support, more women and Africans would come to vote for him than the pussy grabbing white supremacist. This could not have been a hard nut to crack.

Ironically, your doubts about Bernie would have forced more Dems to come out and vote than they did for Hillary, leading to an easier win.

...but we are just speculating. Like I said, it is impossible to pin it on any single factor.



To: JohnM who wrote (376849)7/13/2018 12:41:01 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
Besides, past his platitudes, Bernie had no plan to accomplish anything. What he proposed, attractive and 'progressive' as it sounded, would never come to be in the real world of American government. He's been in it 30 years, and done almost nothing.