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To: Joseph Silent who wrote (144287)11/21/2018 5:01:33 PM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217518
 
another one of your great posts.
thank you.



To: Joseph Silent who wrote (144287)11/21/2018 5:23:54 PM
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  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217518
 
How about amerikan politicians doing this

the deplorables, the 47%, super predators,
etc.etc.etc.

the elites/pols are at war w/the people

The simplest illustrative example I can give is war. Observe how, prior to a war, one side *demonizes* the other side using its media. There is thorough disregard for the thought that we refer to human beings, as we turn a race of peoples from a "thou" to an "it". You see, when something is an "it", we can come up with a justification to destroy it. You see this on message boards too ....... messages filled with pus and vitriol, talking about Russians or Chinese or the enemy that is the flavor of the moment. Never mind that the attackers have little or no personal experience at the human level with that which they want to so easily destroy.



To: Joseph Silent who wrote (144287)11/22/2018 12:02:27 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217518
 
There is only one weapon to counter what you post and it is education. A look at history shows how much less war,violence, racism and misogyny there is today than ever before.

Around the planet the young educated kids are challenging the old cultures of racism, misogyny, homophobia and caste systems and promoting peace and equality of all people.in every country.

I agree technology is taking us toward a dangerous human singularity and our primitive cultures norms and mores are not going to help us. The only thing that will help us is education and especially education of the women.

If I was Bill Gates and had 50 billion dollars I would spend every dime on educating the females around the planet. They are our best chance for survival as shown in this last US election.

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But here is the main issue. We are racing headlong towards a future where the change has been and will continue to be *rapid*. So rapid is this change that, unlike in times past, our societies do not have the time or to tools to develop corresponding myths and rituals. These were things that instructed societies in past days ...... instructed in important ways. That instruction has been replaced by confusion and noise. As a result the disorder will only increase. The West tries to dump its "ethics" and "morals" onto the East along with its technology. Some of it may stick. We will get the same in return. In any case, both societies will eat each other from the inside out, because what was once available is no longer available. And as the elders die out, so will the ways to reach these things, along with the shamans and medicines of the old cultures.

Will algorithms and technology replace what we are losing and have lost? No. :)




To: Joseph Silent who wrote (144287)11/24/2018 10:08:54 AM
From: dvdw©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217518
 
You say "But here is the main issue. We are racing headlong towards a future where the change has been and will continue to be *rapid*. So rapid is this change that, unlike in times past, our societies do not have the time or to tools to develop corresponding myths and rituals"

Logically. those whose circumstances were/are the target of the systemic overlay, have no need for new myths and rituals, in fact, quiet minds observe objectively, sort through the overlays, describe the alternatives being offered, and decide how much or how little should be allowed to reach the programming objectives, built into the chaos you modestly characterize as changes.

All prices remain artifacts of some prevailing systems intent.

All social systems are always subject to the law RO/RS=CF.

It matters not that there is a a wide range of inequality in the distribution of information.

In this new age, where quantum biology becomes the conduit for understanding that exogenous changes are affecting the models of them whose roles is projecting systemic malfeasance.



To: Joseph Silent who wrote (144287)11/26/2018 1:32:59 PM
From: Horgad  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217518
 
I may be more rigid when it comes to ethics than I should be. I have a hard time viewing ethics through a lens that changes with the culture/society/individual or time under observation. I am not saying that isn't the correct way...just saying I have hard time doing that. I guess that I tend towards the view that there are some universal absolutes / hard lines when it comes to ethics. I never would have made it as a Star Trek crew member trying to follow the Prime Directive (if you are familiar with that), but which essentially includes the idea of leaving the cultural norms of others alone at all costs even if they are blatantly unethical but your standards.

A good example quandary in today's world may be woman's rights -- something very ingrained in cultures and societies and also so varied. And an example pondering might be "Are woman's equal rights universally ethically or should the ethics instead be viewed through a cultural and/or time lens?"