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To: T.R. who wrote (15478)	1/16/1998 6:39:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

T.R. <What I've heard is that there is a proposal (I'm not sure at what level) in the city of Boulder, CO to prohibit smoking in cars where children under the age of "X" are riding. On "face value" this seems like a reasonable law...but when I look at the ORIGINAL intent of why smoking was banned it's really getting to the point where we are getting just a little too much government in our lives.> 1. How can you defend or define it as a "reasonable" law, even on so-called "face value"? 2. Most Americans today forget (or are ignorant of the fact) that tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, heroin, cocaine, et. al. were once ALL legal in the United States. The government left it up to individuals to decide upon their non-use, use or misuse. When legislating morality, lifestyles , and socialistic redistribution of wealth became all the rage (first time politically when the signers of the Constitution betrayed the signers of the Declaration of Independence -- many of whom refused to sign the Constitution; second time politically when federalism illegally overrode the sovereignty of the states during the Civil War; third time economically when things like the Sherman anti-trust bill was enacted, the ICC, the Federal Reserve Bank system -- once denounced by Alan Greenspan, now its head! -- and, fourth time by the anti-constitutional enactment by a true robber baron, the federalist creation of the Income Tax laws [promoted by Teddy Roosevelt and signed by Woodrow Wilson], establishment of the IRS and the myriad other controls and restrictions on Americans in the name of "morality", "necessity", "prudence", or even FREEDOM"! Not to mention the Great Experimental "failure", Prohibition [of which tobacco is deja vu all over again]) it was the beginning of the long slide into the abyss into the mindset of the State as supreme over the individual instead of the individual as supreme over the State as, by the way, the original signers of the Declaration of Independence had intended. 3. When enough people finally wake up to the high stakes game being played out with their money, their liberty and their lives, perhaps the errors of the past 200 years can begin to be corrected. If enough don't wake up this society will be damned. It's already looking pretty much like that old movie, "Ship of Fools". Father Terrence

To: T.R. who wrote (15478)	1/16/1998 7:01:00 PM
From: Lady Lurksalot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

T.R. Ah, The Children! Of course! Why didn't I think of that? Well, if you want my opinion (and few do), most of the children of my acquantance could stand a little stunting of their lung power. Just kidding, folks. Honest! Just kidding. I'd still be more concerned about the fire hazard, but The Children will get 'em what they want every time. Bottom line is that I agree with you. Too much government equals Big Brother. Funny you should mention California and weird weather and other disasters. As a matter of fact, just a few days ago there was a tornado in (I believe) Long Beach, which is on the Southern California coast. It did considerable damage to buildings, vehicles, and people. As for blizzards, we have those all the time up in the High Sierras and other mountainous regions and at what others who live in more normal states would consider unorthodox times of the year. I was telling a friend just he other day that only in California would the state of the weather consistently be the lead story in the newspapers and on television news reports.