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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (390877)	12/6/2018 8:50:06 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544021

It is a fair criticism. What it is pointing to is that Trump is delusional, over his head, incapable of establishing real priorities and making difficult decisions. Look at what he did when making his budget: Trump plans to ask for $716 billion for national defense in 2019 — a major increase excerpt: President Trump is expected to ask for $716 billion in defense spending when he unveils his 2019 budget next month, a major increase that signals a shift away from concerns about rising deficits, U.S. officials said. The proposed budget is a victory for Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who recently unveiled a strategy that proposes retooling the military to deter and, if necessary, fight a potential conflict with major powers such as China and Russia. And it represents a setback for deficit hawks such as Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, who last year pressed for an increase in defense spending that could be offset by cuts to domestic programs. The $716 billion figure for 2019 would cover the Pentagon's annual budget as well as spending on ongoing wars and the maintenance of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. It would increase Pentagon spending by more than 7 percent over the 2018 budget, which still has not passed through Congress. washingtonpost.com So, which is it: more defense spending is crazy, more defense spending is needed, the budget deficit doesn't matter, the budget deficit does matter (but defense spending is good, it should be offset by more "cuts to domestic programs"). That reflects the policy confusion within the Trump administration. They want to spend big bucks and cut the deficit all at once. Typically, they avoid making difficult decisions. They really need to tell the military to do what they need to do for less money, which surely should be possible, but the defense establishment is addicted to big spending on pretty much everything except for grunts' salaries.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (390877)	12/6/2018 9:06:25 AM
From: Graystone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544021

You defend Trump or Trump sucks You consistently defend Trump with misdirection and misstatements. You elevate his intelligence which is borderline moron. You support his ridiculous positions. It is an entirely fair criticism of Trump and suggesting otherwise is ridiculous. Suggesting that Trump is trying to curb his wealthy friends from making more money at the expense of the American government is ridiculous. Trump has done nothing to curb the growth of the complex and is a creature owned and controlled by that same complex, suggesting otherwise is deceptive and misleading. You are a fifth columnist, Trump is a reprehensible moron without a clue. He is a rash on the ass of the world that needs to be wiped off. Stop defending that piece of excrement by misdirection and misstating facts. Here is Trump on the huge growth in military spending he approved... “It was at 520 a very short while ago. And the reason I brought it up to 700 and then 716 was to build new ships,” Trump said. “We’re building new, incredible submarines, the finest in the world, most powerful in the world, anywhere, ever. We’re doing things that we have never done on this scale. So that included a lot of rebuilding of our military." defensenews.com

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (390877)	12/27/2018 8:38:49 AM
From: Graystone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544021

Entirely fair or Misleading bias Your insistence on your twenty year reign of honesty doesn't bear scrutiny at all. That is an entirely fair criticism of Trump and that is you lying about the actual record to protect Trump. Live with it. I will propagandize your bias and point out when you mislead. You try to deceive to protect Trump. Trump is an evil dolt. Trump increased military spending, a lot. Instead of misleading about your bias, you could just stand up and admit you are an trumpaholic. Here is Trump on his military spending...“It was at 520 a very short while ago. And the reason I brought it up to 700 and then 716 was to build new ships,” Trump said. “We’re building new, incredible submarines, the finest in the world, most powerful in the world, anywhere, ever. We’re doing things that we have never done on this scale. So that included a lot of rebuilding of our military." Here is you: This is not a fair criticism of Trump. He has, in fact, tried to curb military spending and has been mocked. When it was pointed out that the evil dolt increasing military spending, you didn't address your lie, you attacked Obama instead. You still haven't ceded that the evil dolt increased military spending, a lot. There are places to defend Trump, this isn't one of them. And you are misleading about your bias, I am propagandizing that.