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To: Grainne who wrote (15511)	1/16/1998 11:52:00 PM
From: Lady Lurksalot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Christine, I think you know me well enough to realize that I will not be drawn into a discussion on my thinking on birth-control measures, abortion, the Religious Right, Catholics, Nazis, nicotine-cessation therapies, or any other such inflammatory, potentially polarizing topics. I was merely offering clinical facts from my sources of which you are well aware, not personal opinion. For reasons which should be obvious to you, it disturbs me to see misinformation bandied about and accepted without question. Best you not get me started on AIDS/HIV and mainstream media reportage back in the early to middle 1980s. We all know now how distorted that was and the damage it caused. While US News and World Report is indeed a stodgy publication, it has gone more like the others than you perhaps realize. Like any other journal, it has a readership to keep entertained to survive. I have not had an opportunity to visit the websites for which you provide links but will do so and may have further comments. Here goes what I have to say for now: Late-term abortion used to mean anything after the mid second through third trimester, not The second trimester, so the source you cite has for some reason used or invented a new definition of late-term abortion. As for these late-term and partial-birth abortions, your post clearly states that the numbers conflict and do not agree. You may not recall the highly publicized case a few years ago of a physician who was put on trial for the performing a late-term or partial-birth abortion. You can bet all physicians who perform abortions remember him! These types of abortions are not being performed except when medically required--if for no other reason than the liability factor. You may not know that obstetrician-gynecologists pay some of the highest malpractice premiums, some approaching six figures per year. Many have dropped obstetrics completely. This group of physicians is acutely aware of their potential for liability--and they do care, if for no other reason. As for physicians currently not being trained in medical school to perform abortions, I too have heard that. What I am not clear about is in what ways a dilatation and curettage (D & C) differs from abortion. As far as I can tell it is basically the same procedure. Perhaps one of our more medically knowledgeable people could elaborate on this. Christine, I'm almost ROTFLOL over your statement of birth-control pills and nicotine patches. I believe I said that birth-control pills are no more dangerous than nicotine patches. I think we agree on the safety and efficacy of birth-control pills. Aside from their curative and or palliative effect on a multitude of gynecological maladies, it has also been noted that birth-control pills inhibit ear wax and make dandy plant fertilizer. That day in the early 1960s when it was discovered that they also prevented people was indeed a great day. P. J. O'Rourke's book pokes holes in the politically correct, the environmentalists, the people who would save and heal and feed all the starving and sick people of the world with the most expensive and unworkable means imaginable. P. J. goes on to report on people and agencies that have gone a long way toward solving these problems without a lot of fanfare and tax or private dollars. He reports also that some things that are commonly viewed as problems are merely situations for which no solution or need to find a solution exists. His book is also quite witty. He used to write for Rolling Stone, but now he is a Republican. Well, nobody's perfect. I guess this does it for now. I am looking forward to viewing the links in your post sometime over the weekend and may have more to say. Hope you're having a good one! Holly