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To: Intrepid1 who wrote (109300)	12/20/2018 4:50:08 PM
From: flashforward2009	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116841

They can't afford not to buy cheaper foreign manufactured goods, that was my point. And manufacturing jobs that use to pay a living wage are pretty much gone for good, meaning automation and AI is taking the place of workers. A whole new economy has to be created. Look at pics of auto manufacturing in the US old pics look like ant hills there are so many workers, today many parts of the plants during manufacturing have not even one human being involved. That trend is accelerating. Who owns the plants increasingly the one percent, who are they selling to? The 99% who increasingly have little expendable money after necessities, can't go on this way. Profitable businesses are being taken private, most people can't invest in them because they are not credited investors, meaning not multi millionaires.

To: Intrepid1 who wrote (109300)	12/20/2018 5:51:49 PM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116841

With the exception of one member and possibly another, this is Donald Trump's Federal Reserve. He appointed 90% of the voting members, who ruthlessly raised rates when there was global unrest. Yellen, who is a progressive, is on record for having paused for one whole year due to global concerns. Were these rate hikes good for gold and the Miners? Short and intermediate term no. Longer term, they will likely bear fruit because once a recession hits, the Fed will start easing again, which is good for gold. As for where Americans should or shouldn't buy their products, that's the subject for another thread.