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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10828)	1/18/1998 4:16:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, you are violating the rules of the trial being held here once again. These are points of scripture given by God for inspiration and a number of other things. We are dealing only with the scriptures pertaining to salvation, as stated by the Son of God, the author and finisher of our faith. We are to accept no other gospel of salvation. Emile, please present the scripture that states to be saved any Jew must by birth must understand, accept, or discuss the "vine" issue to be saved. Show how the "vine" issue even figures into salvation, and is a little side issue one time in Romans, whereas the gospels are spoken of in over 75 scriptures. The vine teaching is not to Jews, but to gentiles, thereby one little mention in an entire new testament by way of explanation to gentiles about a Jewish issue and you dare to MAKE THIS MANDATORY MEASURE OF REQUIREMENT OF UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE FOR ALAN TO BE SAVED? YOU CREATE ANOTHER MAN MADE GOSPEL OF SALVATION WE ARE INSTRUCTED BY SCRIPTURE TO REJECT. The charge against Alan the Heretick by Emile the Inquisitor that Alan is not saved and is in league with satan since he holds his own Jewishness as sacred and special to him is found to not violate the rules of Jesus Christ set down for salvation. The statement of grafting into the vine is first of all a teaching to those grafted in, and not directed to Jews to know, understand, proclaim, believe or anything else. It simply is a statement to gentile converts by way of explanation. Paul also speaks of the ROOT BEING HOLY. The third charge that Alan the heretick is dropped until Emile the Inquisitor can provide the scripture that says the Jews no longer exist as a people. Or that Jews can no longer acknowledge that they are Jews and can only describe themselves as "a people who are now part of a vine."

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10828)	1/18/1998 11:11:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile; I have no problem with Gentiles being grafted in, if they wish to become Jews when that takes place my blessing is with them, all I see is a seesaw here I can't stand Jews but when I die I will be a Jew this is just to confusing to me. I will let God determine that I hold that as no importance to anyones salvation, I will just be happy to get into Heaven let alone worry about what I am labeled as. I hold all writings in the Bible as truth and will not except any other plain and simple. Alan